Zoom's 38l Nano

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    Gareth was kind enough to offer me some chemicult.

    I was at Builder's today with the boss buying a generator and a few other power tools for our building site. He needed a submersible pump for his fountains at his house, so off we trundled to the garden section. I found the Chemicult and PFP brick. Mentioned it to my boss that I needed the stuff, but couldn't justify buying the whole thing of chemicult just for a few grams, but I grabbed the brick in anycase.

    Got to the till to pay for everything, and my boss had snuck the chemicult into the trolley and paid for it. So now I have MORE than enough PFP and Chemicult for about 50 Nano's. Hehe.

    Gonna stop at the LPS on the way home and see if I can get my black substrate, and maybe 2 or 3 pots of hairgrass to start the propogation this evening.

    Will follow up with pictures later this week.
     
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    Will follow up with pictures later this week.[/quote]

    just remember were watching you....
     
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    Zoom I see in the PFP site you asked about the water. What I do is to let it evapourate so I can
    add "fresh" water but you have to keep a very carefull and constant eye on it so it does not
    get dry.
    The longer the water stay in the tank the more it is prone to algae and stuff.
     
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    That sounds about right. I don't actually want to put it in full sunlight... cause I'm scared of the algae. I'd rather grow emmersed with the hood on with the light. Just keen to hear the Professor's advise on whether I should be doing any w/c or just top up. Not sure if the W/C will take the chemicult out the water or if it would still be in the PFP and not be effected.
     
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    Mmm I think he said somewhere that it will wash out over time but let him answer to be sure.
    Maybe also ask since you will only add enough water so the grass is still emmersed if you can add more chemicult
    with the little new water or if the origanal amount will be enough?
    I think you should get better results this way because the chemicult would stay concentrated longer than
    with a tank that is filled with water and then a few water changes are done right after.
     
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    I read on the post that adding it directly to the water will create huge ammonia spikes... so I'd rather not do that. I don't believe the concentration will be higher... because the chemicult is capped under the substrate, and not in the water column, whether i have 500ml or 50 litres, there is still the same amount of chemicult available to the plant in the substrate.

    I'm quite excited about this set up.

    Saw some Java moss at LPS today. a 15cm x 15cm sheet for R75.00!!! Flipping rip off! Still need to source my moss... Not sure which one to go for though. Probably Java... as it seems to be the most easily available.
     
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    Forget Java for a moss wall. If you want I will send you a piece of Taiwan you can grow out and use.
    Wont be the biggest piece but if you put it in your other tank with the profs ferts you wil have enough for the one foot in no time.

    Will be taking out some over the weekend that got mixed with my Flame moss by accident.
    ( have to redo my floor)

    P.S can also send you some of the netting as I got hold of some today at almost nothing.
     
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    Hmmm... now that sounds tempting. Could you send me a small piece of the flame moss too?

    (I hope moss isn't blacklisted... else I is going to be in k@k talking about moss on my own thread!!)

    PM me prices... as well as size of the netting you have left over.
     
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    Well I got it all from Prof so I will blame him :)
     
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    So we start tonight...

    Tank (Excuse the cat... I've learnt that cat's can NEVER be chased away long enough to keep them out the photo's!)

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    And the gravel (left) and PFP (Right)

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    More to follow tomorrow
     
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    Hi Zoom,
    I found a thread discusing the Dry start method.If you like I could post the link here?
    Or not,it's your thread and I don't want to hi-jack.
     
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    You can post the link.
     
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    The full tank:
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    And the close up:
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    As per the professors advise, I have added an airstone to keep the air in the tank moving. I'm hoping this also stops the water from becoming "stagnant."
     
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    That's a lot of water.
     
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    I know. I've got a "mountain" in there, so I had to cover those plants as well.
     
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    Aaa I had the same problem with a very early project just like this, failed though. What if you lowered the water
    slightly, doesn't the hill still stay wet enough in between the substrate? They have a fancy scientific name for it I can't remember.
     
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    I plan on sending a PM to the professor tonight, with a whole bunch of questions. This will be one of them Vis, because I am also worried about it.
     
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    Howzit guys,to answer your question,it's called "capillary action".You don't need that much water,aslong as the substrate is moist,the roots will find/reach the water.
    As you have it set up now,the grass wil consentrate on growing immersed leaves,and not roots.It's the roots you want.
     
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    Jip that is the way i understand it as well.

    Keep us updated on the growth.
     

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