Striped Angelfish Pics

Hi Prof

Juan said these are in fact from peru, the tank however was not marked as peruvian. They had ones a little bigger then these last time around,peruvian, but I did not see them today. I paid R29 for one. I had to miss out on your last trip to JHB due to some water trouble at my new place.

I find it very hard these days to tell people exactly what fish I have and where they come from. Seems like nobody really knows and importers don't really care as long as they sell them. Would be nice to say: " These fish originated from the amazon " and actually know its true.

Regards

 

Here's mine. I got two which looks almost identical. I was quite a mission to get crisp pics of them though. Can anyone please tell me if it's male and female?

 

Hi Razer,

It is difficult to sex these because they are still a little on the small side, but they both look like females to me. I have many small angels at the moment of the batches shown before and if you would like some you are welcome to collect some.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Hi Prof,

I also got some angels from you when you were in jhb the other day.

They seems to be very happy together with the other angels I have which is of a simalar size.

It would be nice to breed with them but how do one tell the difference between a male & female angel ?

There is currently a school of 7 angels.

 

Hi gdt,

Glad to hear they are doing well. When they are small it is very difficult to sex them accurately, but when I see them in a group I can already see ones that I think will be males and others that will be females. When I catch them out for folks, I always see to it that I have some possible males and some possible females amongst them. My angels have very good fin extensions that are not damaged and then first sign that fishes are males is on the ventral (bottom) fins you see more than one fin ray extension. The females always have only one fin ray extension. Show us some pics and I can perhaps do some guessing......

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Thats going to be a mission to photograph them as they dont keep still & they are in a planted tank.

But I will give it a long shot and see if I can get some good quality photos of them...

 

Prof, I'm told that I can only have about 2 angels in my 100l tank? Is it true? I understand that when they get big they need more space. Do they always eat Java Moss?

 

is you java moss also disappearing?

 

Well very slowly. There's still plenty but I see the angels nipping at it quite often

 

Nice pics, Razor, but that fish still looks like a female to me.

Angels don't eat Java moss, there must be something else that is eating it, but they are innocent.

You can definitely keep more than two angels in 100 litres, when you eventually have a pair then they would attack other angels and then you would have to reduce the number but certainly not at the moment.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Lol I've seen them nipping at the moss and now on some other new plant too. They also did it with java fern a bit.

It's good if it's a female The other one should just be a male then.

Here's both: Please tell m if you can tell the sex.

 

Hi Razer,

I would still say that both fishes are females. The marks are irrelevant because those are minor injuries and they are nothing to worry about. Your fishes are looking healthy so you are doing just fine with them.

There have been a number of inquiries for pics of my fishes, in other words of the young angelfish that I bred and of which I shown a lot of pictures before. I have posted a pic below of a group of these fishes so that you can see what they look like. Please note the fin extensions on the bottom ventral fins and on the tail fins, you will not see many young angels in a lfs that will have those fin extensions because the fishes have been raised under far too dense conditions. Because my fishes have been raised under low density conditions, they have perfect fins and when they are adult they should look stunning. They are going at the bargain price of R10 per fish, I would like these fishes to be used by others for breeding purposes, that is why I am not charging a huge price. By the way, Razer, I can see that ancestors of the fishes that you have got also have most probably also come from me, many folks have over time bought my wildtype angels, and I am actually very happy to see that they are appearing in the general trade.

Then I have shown you two pictures, the first shows what I would think is a male fish and the second pic shows a female fish. Note that the bottom ventral fins on the male are longer, and have more than one fin extension. The fish on the other pic which I am pretty sure is a female has shorter ventral fins and a shorter single fin extension. Females never have more than one ventral fin extension, males always have more than one fin extension.

So the pics will follow.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

I see what you mean Those are beautiful angels

The treason I pointed out the markings are just to identify which is which Those angles indirectly come from @Gert Combrink, I don't know if they then further along come from you.

You know, I would have bought from you if you weren't so far away from me It would be like R40 fuel for 4 Angles?? pff.

 

Hi Razor,

Yes, Oom Gert got his fishes from me, so you fishes originally come from me. However, those were fishes which we just my domestic strain angels and the fishes that I am now offering have been crossed with wild angels from Peru.

I am sure that we can make a plan to get some fishes to you via Henk or something. I am going away tomorrow until 21 December but will be at home after that so somehow we will work something out.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Cool What's better about the crossed strain?

I would preferably not make use of Henk's "kindness" too much without having something to offer back to the community, but we can make a plan some time. Next year somewhere.

 

Hi Razer,

The crossed strain grows about 30% larger than normal angels and the fishes have a stunning shape and finnage, go and have a look at my previously posted pictures.

If you are really interested in wild type angels then you should go and look at the international angelfish forum, finarama, on which I am one of the moderators http://www.finarama.com/forum/ . There are many pics there of stunning angels and in particular of Pterophyllum altum which are the most stunning angels of all, but are very difficult to keep.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Yeah I've seen the Altums and seen your posts about them. They are beautiful but I won't dare try them. Not even if I managed to breed scalare's. I'll check out finarama a bit. The wild angels get about 20cm tall (with fins?) right? Or is that just Altums? How long does it take? Sorry if I'm being a bit irritating, but how big must they be before they will spawn?

 

Altums get about 30 cm tall!!!! and normal domestic scalare angels will get to 18 cm maximum. These fishes that I am now offering get to about 22-23 cm tall.

They would have to be about 8-10 months old before they can breed.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Wow a few of those sized altums in a 2000l heavily planted tank would look fabulous!