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Discussion in 'Problems with Discus' started by Steve.S, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. Dirk

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    Give us a littel more detail about why you say he is better.

    Do not even try to move him now if he is just starting to recover.


    How big is the tank you want to move him into?

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    Steve.S

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    He's face is not paralysed any more and not swimming funny or bumping on things. Eating a bit. Tank is 6foot with 4foot sump.
     
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    Read the instructions on the leaflet in the Tank Buddies pack finish the course first before you move him. :idea:
    Next time you need to work out what you fish is doing and explain yourself in detail, you cannot hope to get any help with a one line description of what is wrong...

    Get him some company! :smile1:
     
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    If I put more fish in wont they get sick to? I do not want the others to get sick.
     
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    It is very important for discus to be kept in schools of at least six fishes, they are stressed if they are on their own. I would advise that you read through the thread on how to keep discus as this has lots of handy advice.

    Although we are obviously happy that your fish is better and he needs to recover fully, it would still be better for him to be given some mates. You could then consider treating them all again, but I think that your problem was largely induced because he was on his own in a far too small tank.

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    So you want me to put al the discus in the small tank?

    Or the sick one back in big tank? Im confuzed now
     
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    Hi Steve

    Tell us a bit more about your big tank. What other fish do you have and what is the tank's size?

    What Dirk was referring to was to get other discus fish so that your single specimen can school with his own kind. That is how they should be kept. A school of at least 6.

    The illness was probably brought about by stress from being alone. If kept in the proper water conditions, they don't just get sick for no reason at all.
     
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    9 discus
    3 brissel noses

    There is no room in small tank for more fish. If I put him in big tank other fish will get sick to
     
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    Why don't you first finish the course of Tank buddies he is on, if he is well in a week buy 5 other similar sized healthy discus and put them together at the same time in the big tank. :smile1:
     
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    Steve.S

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    Is the tank big enough for 15 discus? A friend said just 10.
     
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    Steve, since you already have 9 discus I don't think being alone was the problem.
    CB, I suppose, not knowing the exact dimensions of Steve's tank, a 6ft tank with 4ft sump can accomodate around 12-14 discus, so I hear you, but maybe Steve should be looking at adding a school of dither fish like cardinals or rasboras. And of course, he should only return the sick fish to the big tank once he has recovered completely. On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with a discus only tank.
     
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    Well why don't you tell us the dimensions 180cm X ? X ?...
    and the sump size,
    and what your filtering it with, just a sump, or a canister as well?
     
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    Steve, in further trying to analyze the cause of the fish's illness, did you notice any strange behaviour before the fish fell sick? The 9 discus you have in your main tank - are they swimming calmly and eating well? What size are they? Do they swim out in the open often? Do they come to the front of the tank when you approach?
     
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    :confused: Sorry I didn't see any mention of other discus?
     
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    The tank is a normal 6foot with a normal 4foot sump. Not special made. No cannister.
    The other discus are not sick and eating. Nothing funny. Al are same size.
     
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    OK sorry I'm falling behind on this thread I'm sure Laure can help you...
     
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    OK thanks Steve. Looks like we are gonna have to drag the information out of you :)

    When you say all the same size, can you tell me exactly what size? 6cm/8cm/12/cm/etc.

    I assume your tank is the standard build 6ft and not the extra depth 6ft. Correct?
    Same for your sump.

    Let's hope your fish gets better soon.

    CB I think you are far better qualified to help. I am just trying to get the information...which seem to be forthcoming in ambigous spurts of one-liners... :huh:

    Steve, mate, there are extremely experienced discus keepers on this forum. Please try and give as much information as possible. It will help these guys when they try to help you.
     
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    I said before the fish is 10cm.
    Yes regular tanks
    Thanx

    Not sure what other info you need?
     
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    OK thanks I must have missed where you mentioned the size of the fish. It is unfortunate that your fish got sick, and since the medication appear to be helping, it is good news.

    What we are trying to do is find out more about your setup so we can try to analyze what could have caused this. As far as I know, discus don't just get sick for any reason unless they are stressed. This can be brought on by water quality, tank mates, feeding issues, aggression in too small groups, introducing fish with dissease to your tank and a few other minor issues. The more we know about your setup, the better we can analyze the reason so you can avoid this happening again.

    CB, any thoughts?
     
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    Steve, I fear that you are not understanding us properly.

    CB is suggesting that you should have at least 5 tankmates for your discus. If the discus in your big tank are the same size as he is, then it is OK for you to put him back in that tank and then he does have enough buddies with him. If he is very much smaller than the other 9 discus are, they may dominate him and then we start with the next set of problems.

    If these fish were together before, they all have the same gill flukes or other worms, but it is possible that your sick fish was the only one that actually became sick and the others are OK.

    I first need to ask some more questions before I can answer fully. How big exactly is your big tank. You say 6 foot, but that does not tell us what the volume is. Please give us the dimensions of that tank as well.

    How big are the other nine discus when you compare them with you sick discus?

    If I have this information, I can make further suggestions.

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     

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