Importing Fish

i'v had a look on that link and there's 3 that stand out for me dont know much about them or how available they ever would be.they are the-
Apisto hongsloi
Apisto uapesi
and then the veijita goldcant find a picture of the veijita gold at the moment

all pics courtesy of google images

 

Hi Athol,

The hongsloi that you have indicated are the ones that are inbred and quite sensitive. They have been in the country, I had some at some stage.

Pappabear, A cacautoides triple red are in South Africa, you just need to find someone who has some. Pelvicachromis taeniatus is a nice fish and I would also be interested. Laetacara curviceps pop up ever so often but they are not really dwarfs they are a little larger and need larger tanks.

If you want to keep and breed some dwarfs on an ongoing basis, you should reserve at least 3 tanks per species, two for breeding pairs and one for raising.

Also do not try keeping them in mixed groups, they are often very aggressive in such situations.

Rams are still of the most stunning dwarfs out, but poor quality rams come into South Africa from the east on an ongoing basis. These have been fed antibiotics and have been raised away from their parents and are useless in my opinion. What we should get are some good German rams, chunky big fishes that are robust and don't die on you within a week.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

but darn that hongsloi is nice.so im left with just the uapesi and pappabear if you ever find those triple reds i'd love to know.and those good quality germa rams would go down well as well.

 

Hi Athol,

I agree that the hongsloi are nice, and I am not saying that it is impossible to keep them, but you will need almost discus type soft water and excellent filtration.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

I had some hongsloi, the male killed the female in the first two weeks and the just slowly deteriorated and died. They are stunning, but boy did I flush some mula down the toilet with them. My own fault, but that is how we learn, from our mistakes. I am leaning towards the Borelli. Some of them are really stunning, blue with a shimmer of gold. And they are peaceful little guys. Have a look on the net, and tell me you did not fall in love with them.

 

Yes, hongsloi belong to the macmasteri group which I told you were more aggressive and this is exactly what you have experienced. When you buy dwarfs you should always buy a group so that pairs can form naturally. Just any male and female combined will not work.

Borellis are really nice and peaceful, they are small but also need a lot of attention, but then most of them are not your normal robust fishes in any case. Have a look at the borelli Opal if you can find a link to those, they are really nice.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Those are the ones I am talking about. Stunning fish. If @Moolis can get those, would you be interested prof?

 

Those are the ones I am talking about. Stunning fish. If @Moolis can get those, would you be interested prof?

 

The red variants of german rams have to feature as one of my favourite fish...... even the normal ones. From where should one get rams to get quality you'll be able to breed with? Germany? South America?

Then we are atleast 3 already in the cape area who are looking for these fish....

Prof: Do you have any experience or knowledge of Anomalochromis thomasi and Nanochromis Nudiceps? They seem stunning to me!

 

I would also take some Pelvicachromis taeniatus but only if we can get the Moliwe strain.

 

Everybody, please let's not digress. I know there are loads of fish that we all would like to get, but let's focus on the objective. To build a relationship with someone who is willing to help us. I have asked Moolis to let me know what is on the list. When I get a reply I will let you know.

 

Hi K-L,

We are still on the topic of dwarf cichlids and we are not digressing. Also, Moolis does not have one list, he sees many lists and he needs to know what we may want. I think that this discussion is good as this will allow Moolis to get an idea of what the guys are looking for in general. So let us continue please.

Henk, Nick James in Grahamstown brought in 6 P taeniatus Moliwe for me years ago, five died rapidly after arrival and the sixth one survived for 4 years. It was terribly frustrating not to be able to get a mate for him. This is the lesson that you learn if you bring in too few fishes.

Moolis had Nanochromis nudiceps when I last visited his shop a few months ago. I bought a few but there were only males and they did not make it. The lesson you learn is if you buy too few you have a good chance of loosing a strain. Anomalochromis thomasi are too aggressive, forget about them unless you have big aquaria.

Any more suggestions for Moolis? After this you must put your money where your mouth is and buy what Moolis tells you he can get, I hope you realize this guys!

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

Thanks for the info on those species prof! The aggressiveness explains quite a bit why many of these species are not common in the trade.....

How many fish would one need for a viable strain? Just want to start making arrangements regarding budget and tank space....

It would be more important for me to get one species settled than get to few of say 3 species and when something happens, I'm back to square one....

 

Hi P-B,

Yes, I only keep A aggasizzi and P pulcher at the moment because you need a couple of tanks in order to maintain a strain. I would think that you need at least ten fishes to maintain a strain and I would prefer 20. For tank space see my earlier recommendation.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

http://www.aquaticquotient.com/gallery/files/5/4/2/WZ4R8104ER.jpg

That ram??
Mikrogeophagus ramirezi
I am from holland.. my brother is into fish. they call them 'antennebaarsje' I believe there.

http://aquadeep.spdevs.com/tag/antennebaarsje/

 

Yes dutchdog,

those are the fishes which we call Rams here. You also have very nice ones in Holland, none of this rubbish from the east.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

http://www.*********************/forum/gallery/apistogramma-cacatuoides-(sunburst)-670/


seems triple reds A. cuacatoides are in SA..

 

@PappaBear I have just sold some trip reds unfortunately I only had 2 females and sold one to Hein and kept one for myself... I plan to breed them again...

 

Prof, don't think you quite understand what I am getting at. @Moolis said he will help us. Letting us know what is available. Correct me if I am wrong. It is great getting input from the other member about what they would like to see in the trade. Those fish are not available, reason being that there is not enough interest. The reason why we are taking to each other on this thread. So if everybody start posting their wish list we are back at square one. Just another list with loads of requests that we will never see in our life time. A pipe dream that I would like to avoid.
Once we establish the availability, we can make a call on the species we all agree on and order them, or maybe more than one. Who knows.
You commit by paying the required deposit to Moolis covering all his cost for the fish and to get into good old SA. This way he does not run the risk of orders not being collected and paid for in full. @Moolis, I think we need some input from you at this point in time. How would you like to like to make the arrangements.
I agree with you totally, we have to "put our money where our mouth is". The long and shot of it.
So, fellow fish keepers, are you prepared to take the risk? The truth is that you might fork out R1000 or more, and have nothing to show for it at the end of the day. But once when you decided that you are in, you have to honor it.
@Moolis, can you please let us have a list of what is offered on a regular basis. With that we might be able to decide on what we would like to order.
Years ago there was something called Die Groot Trek. Why?... People could not agree on anything. And we all seem to suffer from the same problem.

 

R1000 but for how many fish,1 2 6?moolis needs too give us an idea maybe just on the few we have spoken about already.