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    There was something in the ame lasypt night that I picked up on, maybe just my imagination - it really seems as if there is an "issue" in the squad somehow. Some players seem irritated with each other and its almost as if the "great spirit" being punted around is a hoax to cover up something sinister.

    I hear you @Reedfish - and maybe you are right. My only concern is who do we replace him with? Theres not much out there hey. Id hate for us to become a chelsea with 2 managers a season, and I dnt want a O'Neill type coming in either. We need new ideas and i was hoping Steve Bould would bring some, but our once spectacular style of play is now even gone, and we just seem constantly under pressure.

    Ag I dont know, wish I was a Barcelona Supporter. . .
     
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    @Marco,
    I have read that we have been looking at Kapp (or is it Klopp, or Kopp, or Klapp). I tihnk he is that Bayern Munich manager

    Bould was supposed to shore up the defense. Did seem to be working initially. But we have just fallen back into old habits.

    The Swans at home on Saturday...surely we will win that one??????
     
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    Dire.....If Wenger isn't packing his bags by tomorrow, then I don't know.

    To show the situation at the club at the moment. I have read that we want to sign Henry to cover for Girvinhio when he goes to the international competition in the new year.
    Now Henry was brilliant in his day. But at present, at the Premiership level, 15 mins off the bench at the end of a match is all we can hope for. But that is who we are going to be pinning our hopes on. Pathetic.
    If the team needs a striker, sign a decent striker. But no, we going for a has-been Just shows the idiotic mentality of the executives at the club!
     
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    I just dont get it. I am seriously peeved atm, and I dont want to even consider the remainder of the season. Wenger talks rubbish 90% of the time, and we play like crap. To me thats the bottom line - svrew the promises and make-belief.

    How could he have risked ANOTHER season with a plastered side held together by no direction. Im not a manager, but even I know ypu dont start a season without a trusted striker.

    Ill rant and rave, theres much to rant about-whats the point?
     
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    @Marco,
    I have decided that i actually hope that the rest of our season is dire. Whatever it takes to get rid of Wenger. Because if he stays, it is just the same cr*p lurching from one season to the next.
    So if there is no CL next season, so be it.
    I want him gone, and a new beginning.
     
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    I think the whole team need "The Hairdryer Treatment" from Ferggie!? My 2 cents worth. Newc
     
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    @Reedfish
    Explain these two statements made by Wenger

    "RVP was sold for financial reasons - if a player has made it clear he doesnt want to sign a new contract, you cant keep him at the club and lose him on a free transfer" (quote not exact words)

    "Theo will not be sold in january, even if it means he doesnt sign a new contract. He is important to our success for this season, and its worth the risk losing him for free in the summer"

    What contradictions? I see us signing some obscure useless striker in January like Darren Bent from Villa. Then get told we tried bringing in some players, and we got a world class striker. . , AN INTERNATIONAL player. . .
     
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    Wengers spends most of his time trying to appease the directors and the other half buying "sell by date' players. i am at the stage of not being able to watch them play that I generally end up switching to another match. Thank goodness for Real madrid. They sometimes have a bad game and then make up with vengence in the next.The directors of Arsenal will not spend "big" money on "big names". We could end up with someone like Hughes or Warnock ! Never the "only one" or Guadilola. Newc
     
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    @Marco,
    RVP was sold for 2 reasons:
    1) They refused to pay him the increase in wages he wanted
    2) He wasn't that keen to stay at the club anyway because he saw they were directionless, refusing to spend decent money on decent players.

    And Walcott will go. I have no doubt. £££££ talks.

    We won't get Bent. Arsenal don't buy decent (or half decent) English players. A few youngsters maybe (Walcott and OC).
    Wenger would rather buy some foreign rubbish like Park, or Chamak.

    @Newc,
    Guadiola or "the Special One" (you mean?) ie Maurinhio would never come to Arsenal
    We have lined up the Bayern Munich manager if you believe what is written in the newspapers.
     
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    Hehe, i was being sarcastic - with Bent unhappy at Villa and not playing atm, hed be a "perfect" Wenger signing. . .
    I can already hear Wenger telling us what a wonderfull player he actually is

    Tbh, I dont think we'd get Klopp, unless Wenger decides to step down. The board will never fire Arséne. I further have much doubt as to which manager would actually be willing to take on the job, with constant shortages of money being punted and a structure as rigid as AFC's, it really is a tough decision.

    I really wish we had clarity as to what/who is to blame. Is it Wenger actually doing an unbelievable job under circumstances we have no insight into, or is HE the one to blame for the cicumstances? I cannot for the life of me understand how Spurs has more buying power than us! How is it possible? Is it a better run club?
     
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    @Marco,
    I have heard that it's part of the Board that limit Wengers spending. Apparently some of the Board don't agree with this policy, but are in the minority.

    What bugs me about Wenger, and what you can blame him for, is the team's performance.
    2 x draws and 1 loss against 3 teams we really should have beaten. And we would have lost to Spurs too if Adebayor hadn't had his moment of madness.
    The current players on the pitch are really, on paper, not all that bad.
    I just think that they aren't playing well individually, and not well as a team. And who should be motivating them? Or should be getting the best from them? - Wenger.
    And it's because of that, that I want him gone. Not the spending policies of the Board.

    Apparently Bayern Munich have similar spending policies. So Klopp would be used to that environment!
     
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    Good read. Its what we all know, but what now?

    I must be honest with you, Ive considered who, if I was a manager, Id buy for the two most obvious positions we are short on - DM and Striker.

    I watch a crap load of football but have no clue! Falcao is a great striker, but not an Arsenal type striker. Llorente maybe, or even Lewandovski, the latter also not exactly our type of striker.
    Defensive midfielders are few and not easy to find. Its a hard thing and I really dont see it being pulled together soon.
     
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    @Marco,
    I dunno. There must be someone out there??
    Surely? A big club like Arsenal should be able to attract decent players and a decent managwer?? Surely?

    What worries me, is that if things continue as they are, we will lose even more quality players.
    Walcott has one foot out the door.
    Sagna has been complaining the club has no long term vision.
    Wilshire could easily find another big club.
    And then we will never be able to attract decent players.
     
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    i watch both soccer and rugby.am a huge tottenham hotspur fan.must admit that football has become more of an act rather than skill.its sad.
    wenger let some good talent go and if he doesnt replace them,i see the arsenal becoming a pool or even a leeds.its the money that wins trophies.no more pure talent


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    i apologise
     
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    @timothy m,

    No need to appologise :nuts:

    It's tough being a Gooner at the moment :sad2:

    @Marco,
    Last night's result....nothing to add really......
     
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    Result last night quite predictable, Earlier in the day Wenger told an interviewer "that it was fashionable to critise Arsenal".
    What a stupid statement to make. Possibly from someone on a sinking ship.Lets hope he can turn things around! Newc
     
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