enemy advances, call to arms..

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  1. Rudi

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    You can contact uncover agent Walter(Toshi) and confirm information on anti-biotics.He had good results on a previous encounter with Cyano.
     
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    A good phosphate scrubber in conjunction with Oxytetracycline has had me Blitzkrieg this rogue very sucsessfully... 1mg Terramycin per liter and Seachem's phosphate scrubber clears it up in a trice...
     
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    A good phosphate scrubber in conjunction with Oxytetracycline has had me Blitzkrieg this rogue very sucsessfully... 1mg Terramycin per liter and Seachem's phosphate scrubber clears it up in a trice...

    Unfortuanately,the Terramycin knocks your filterbacteria for a 6...
     
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    OK many thanks for this, I'll will first see if Walter's antibiotic is perhaps more user friendly on my filter bacteria and then work out the strategy for a revenge strike. Presumably I could simply move the FX5 out of the tank system for a couple of days. How would this medication impact on all the plants ?
     
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    Hi Trevor,
    When I had cyano I went down to my friendly pharmacy and asked for a capsule of erythromycin antibiotic and popped one into my 100l. It cleared up in no time with no side effects.
     
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    Many thanks Boebie, so was it fine on the biological filter side and with all plants ? Mine is an over the top planted tank, 720lt, with at least 25 types..

    Perhaps I will start off with say 3 capsules...
     
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    Would anti-biotics not effect filter?
     
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    Check the link that I suggested. They recommend that you save some of your filter media in a spare tank.
     
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    Ahhh... my apologies @boebie

    Caught me questioning something without reading the information you provided!
     
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    Just picked up some erythromycin today, Walter also confirmed it worked for him, but not sure which strength of capsule you were suggesting, Boebie ?

    I got the 250mg which I understand is usually prescribed for human medication, but there are several strengths available.

    Ok, how should I dose for a 700+lt plus tank, based on your I capsule per 100 lts. Do I dose seven capsules all together upfront or do I spread it out over several days, thought I would rather be conservative and start off with 3 capsules ?


    http://www.myfishtank.net/articles/blue-green-algae-article/

     
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    @Trevor Pleco, I used the 250mg in my 100l. The correct dosage is about 500mg/100l, so I dosed roughly half that. I left it for two days and did a 40% waterchange and dosed again. At this stage the cyano was completed defeated and I also added some Seachem Stability to get the bacteria levels up again. Rather start off with a low dosage at first.
     
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    @boebie, Cool thanks, did you see the terms of engagement (dosage suggestions) in the link I just posted, not too dissimilar to yours ?

    Seems to suggest it will be ok for the bacteria in the canister, but I thinK I will remove some of it to make sure..

    To the trenches, lol !
     
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    Update from the front line - I put the erythromycin in yesterday early evening, actually called Purmycyn in my case, but the chemist assured me it was the same thing, 250mg per capsule. I took out 95% of the bacteria filter medium, but left the sponges, a sachet of Zeocarb and Clearmax in the FX5. The tank is only 75% full and allowing for the deep substrate dosed with 5 capsules, so approximately 2.5g per liter as prescribed. This morning, sixteen hours later, I see no improvement yet. Is this too early to tell and should I have also taken out the Zeocarb ?

    PS... Just done more research and understand the carbon should be removed as that takes out medication so presume it will do the same with the erythromycin ?

    Also have Purigen in the canister, should this also be removed I wonder ?
     
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    I would remove all forms of Chemical filtration - even though they have reduced eficiency after a while,will still reduce the eficiency of the EM...
    Generally though,you wont see a drastic improvement till round day 3 ...
     
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    Thanks Azurekoi, that's a big help. Should I dose again then, as by now the Zeocarb and Purigen have presumably taken quite a bit of yesterday evening's dosing ?
     
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    Uhm... estimating HOW much would be virtualy impossible... I'd leave as is and just continue tomorrow with its correct dosage...

    Look at the response of the cyano... if by day 3 it's not melting,continue for one more day before the 50% water change - that would mean that the chemical filtration removed a lot of the EM before you took it out...
     
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    Enemy forms coalition !

    :wondering: A new threat was spotted at first light…. thousands of brown dust like infantry troops have appeared on all four glass flanks and are now beginning to march over the substrate and the plants, scary stuff indeed ! With allied forces seriously weakened with the withdraw of the majority of the filter weaponry after dosing with erythromycin, this has evidently created an opportunistic opening for a second threat.

    Additional battle plans urgently required..?
     
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    Stand tall soldier, defeat enemy #1 first.
     
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    Second enemy wave most probably diatoms...will soon dissapear as they use up available silicates in water.... As boebie said - focus on enemy # 1...
     

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