Cyprichromis leptosoma

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    The Karlsson brothers who used to export from the lake also mention:

    "At Cape Mpimbwe the three different colour variants are: with yellow head and tail fin (1); head with same colour as body: beige or brown, and a yellow tail fin (2); and a completely different variant which is mostly blue with yellow finnage, which is also known as “Azuriâ€."

    At any rate, I prefer the yellow heads. I would breed for yellow heads too!
    @Zirk: your colony looking better and better. Keep the pics coming!
     
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    Thanks Lep2soma
    I saw a spawning today. Blue male with one of my original females. Hope she carries full term, but it's her first mouthfull so chances are not so good. I think the new females from Jack's original group are a bit intimidating in size at the moment, but I'm holding thumbs as one of the yellow head males seems interested.
     
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    Good luck with that carrying female, @Zirk! She may surprise you and carry to term...

    I have permission to post pics belonging to a fellow Cyp enthusiast from Canada:

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    Thanusan Mpimbwe 004.jpg

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    Speckleback Mobas:

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    @lep2soma. So you are e-cichlid on cichlid-forum. The last video of the blue male mpulungu looks a lot like my blue male. Do the mpulungu females have black in their dorsal and ventral fins?
    Great looking tank by the way!
     
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    @Zirk: yip, that's me!

    Okay, the MALE mpulungus:

    The male yellow-tailed have dark dorsal and ventrals.
    The male blue-tailed have light blue dorsals and ventrals.

    But ALL the females are drab brownish or grey, no dark dorsal and ventral fins...
    much like the females in the last two pics below.

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    @Zirk: please try to take a decent pic of your blue male?
    I would like to see if @Jack Stone's concern is justified.
    I did advocate removing the blue male earlier, a good pic will help me...
    If you plan on selling offspring later, it makes good sense to be SURE of your variant.
     
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    Here is photos of the blue male, the yellow tail male and the yellow head male. I also include photos of the females,with and without colored dorsal fins.
    I can't really remove the blue male as its my only cyps tank and my other fish might kill it

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    @Zirk:
    It's a bit worrying to me that you have females that differ.
    I took some time to reply to you because I've been scouring the net for more info, and I'm almost certain that you have females of differing variants...
    Also most are of the opinion that the blue Azuri leptos are NOT part of the Yellow heads.
    Perhaps you should take Jack up on his offer?
    It would be a pity to use up resources to breed a cyp that will perhaps be a hybrid?

    I remember back in 2006 when I couldn't identify the collection point of my cyps, it drove me NUTS.
    They were microlepidotus, but from WHERE?

    Personally I would not bother with a cyp unless I was SURE of what it is, and that it would breed TRUE.

    But maybe that's just me...


    On the topic of micros, here's some pics:

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    and micro "Kiriza Black"

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    Kiriza Black are awesome!


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    can a mix leptosoma tank work?
     
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    You could probably keep one variant of Jumbo and one variant of non-jumbo in a tank, provided you have enough females, without fear of hybridisation, I guess.
    I wouldn't advocate mixing of mpulungu and utintas for example. If you mixed them, they would probably hybridize, and besides, you would not be able to tell the females apart.
    You would not be able to separate the females from each other once mixed...

    I would LOVE to try a Cyprichromis Show Tank! The way I used to have an Aulonocara Show Tank...
    30 or 40 Males of different variants, just for show, all in a display tank.

    Everyone breeding cyps, send me your excess males!

    Perhaps @Jack Stone can chime in here, about keeping mixed leptosomas?

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    @Ebrahim - I wouldn't mix any Leptosoma in a tank, although what @lep2soma is saying is true, the Jumbu and non-Jumbo variant SHOULD not hybridize in the wild, but I suspect in the aquarium any male who comes across any ripe female will attempt to spawn with her.

    That said, you could attempt to mix Cyprichromis leptosoma with Cyprichromis microlepidotus and will have very little chance of hybridization because these species use somewhat different breeding strategies. Again, this is not something I would attempt in the aquarium but I know in the wild they will school together and breed only with their own species.

    There are many more species of Cyprichromis and Paracyprichromis out there which should be explored if you are looking to mix Cyps. in a tank.

    In my opinion if you want mixed color males, get Kitumba! Heheheh.
     
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    heeheeeheee!!!!! after i google kitumba i know what you mean and having a lekke laugh. what are they hybrits from the wild... lol.... just joking.... thay look stunning.
     
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    Hahaha, ja, glad you enjoyed that!
    The Kitumba are probably the most varied (in color) population of Leptosoma in the lake. They couldn't possible be painted more attractively!
     

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