wolf's 'system'

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  1. wolf

    wolf

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    hi al
    been a member for a wile now but just dit not have tieme to get this done sow here is my tank
    specs 1.2mx50 x45
    4x t5 58w
    1xt8 30w
    90cm sump drilled tank
    t5 on for 8ure
    using prof dirks drippels
    home made co2
    16 otto's
    11 harlequins
    12 rummenouse tetras
    peper and bronze corys

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    and 4weeks ago

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    and 25 of june
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  3. Zafgak

    Zafgak Old fart

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    Love the riccia tree - nice tank all round
     
  4. carl p

    carl p

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    well uve defnitly got best blue support for ur tank at the top. the ricia looks good,
    does the ricia need a LOTs of light or just moderate
     
  5. veegal

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    LOVE the tree! A stunning setup you have there Wolf.
     
  6. stormbringer101

    stormbringer101 ARO

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    incredible looking tank,nice one wolf ,
     
  7. theosmit

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    Do I get this right? The tank was set up after 25 June...The pics show the tank probably close after setup and then approx a month and a half later.:amazed:

    You have brilliant progress going there! I really like the setup. Ditto on the tree, but man...that flag has got to go :blink1:
     
  8. Gareth

    Gareth Angel Freak

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    Other than the flag that tank looks awesome....
     
  9. Slojo

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    Now now guys the best setup in the room IS THE FLAG.
    Don't be so nasty all u WP,Cheethas and..........lesserteams.

    At least now i know there is some culture in CT.
     
  10. SauRoN

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    WoW! That looks awesome...I feel ashamed for my plastic plants when I see that.
     
  11. Huxham

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    Awesome tank,Great job on the set up, but the flag spoils it!
     
  12. Gareth

    Gareth Angel Freak

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    SHARKS till I die!!!! but that tank is stunning I wish I could get my plants to grow like that....
     
  13. Slojo

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    LOL i think we are highjacking this thread with our team talk.
     
  14. speedz

    speedz In need of a fishroom....

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    nice system hey
     
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    wolf

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    hi all
    hope there is someone that can help me here
    i have a algae outbrake i think it is tread algae
    Wat can i do to get rid of IT plz help.
    i have my lights on for 8 ure and is using prof dirk drippels. and home made co2
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  16. Donny

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    Wolf the tank looks Awesome ....
     
  17. Gareth

    Gareth Angel Freak

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    How long did it take the algee to get like that?
     
  18. Laure

    Laure Cyano Terminator

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    Most likely cause of filamentous green algae: high light combined with ammonia spike. Can be removed by twirling a toothbrush around it. Most algae eaters will eat this algae. Get some mollies and don't feed them. Things to check:

    1. Is the light intensity, CO2 and nutrient dosing balanced?
    2. What is the ph?
    3. Is there enough water circulation?
    4. Did a fish die unnoticed? I.e., is there decomposing material causing ammonia spikes and high amount of disolved organics?
    5. Is there enough O2 in the water?

    You are using DIY CO2. Are you sure that your output is consistent? Levels that vary too much can cause lots of algae problems. Are you able to measure the bubbles per second and confirm that it is the same throughout the day?

    P.S. the tank looks great (before the algae) - almost as good as that flag! :bigsmile:
     
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  19. Laure

    Laure Cyano Terminator

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    Algae treatment: Many hammers approach

    If I may, I would like to post here what was posted by Tom Barr on another overseas forum. So the credit goes to Tom Barr for this post:
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    I have a simple method that will work for you and most anyone experiencing a nasty algae bloom.
    It's much more about "many little hammers" hitting, beating the algae back. Intergrated management approaches.
    Hammer no#1
    Look at what species is in the tank.
    BBA=> CO2 issue
    Staghorn=> probably NH4 related, you uprooted and moved lots of plant, did not do a water change soon after
    BGA=> likely bottomed out the NO3, or have not cleaned the filter etc in a awhile
    GW=> NH4 related, much like staghorn, but higher light required to induce.
    Green hair algae, branched=>> lack of dosing, low CO2
    Softer greens=> too much light/not enough CO2 and a little NH4
    Diatoms> new tank, otto's
    These are the worst offenders and you'll note all have environmenal causes.
    Hammer no2#
    Herbivores
    Generally icing on the cake
    But SAE's, rosey barbs, Amano shrimp are very effective and each herbivore has a trade off, there are few herbivores that do everything
    Hammer no#3
    Blackouts: fairly effective and highly on BGA and GW
    Hammer no#4
    Excel, it's the only thing that kills algae and grows plants, if it does not grow a plant, do not add it. That is a good rule to follow.
    Generally, folks have algae due to CO2 issues, this corrects that and kills the algae, later you can fix and tweak the CO2 gas.
    Hammer no#5:
    Elbow grease, manually picking, preening, fluffing, trimming, pruning off infected leaves. Cleanign everything, bleaching all equipment, tubing, rocks wood etc, anything non living you can get at and remove, rinse, add dechloro, return to the tank. Clean filter, lightly vac substrate, do large water changes(50-80%).
    So a combination method:
    1. Add herbivores
    2. Blackout the tank for 3 days while treating
    3. Do daily large water changes
    4. Double dose Excel for 3 days, single dose thereafter
    5. Correct environmental issue, generally CO2.
    6. Dose after each water change, KNO3, KH2PO4, TMG(traces), GH
    7. Manually stay on top of things and clean the tank, wipe glass etc, keep it clean.
    8. Crank CO2 since you have added all the other nutrients of interest(Macros and micros are dosed to excess levels except for NH4)
    CO2 will be the only variable that will induce algae at this point.
    9. Reduce lighting the light if possible (1.5-2.5 w/gal range), this drives uptake of nutrients and CO2, if there is not enough, algae will grow, everytime. This will slow things down, later, after the issues have been corrected, you may add more light. You may also reduce the duration from say 10 hours to 6 for a few days also.
    The main idea is to stop new algae growth, once you do that, you have the algae licked. You can then prune and trim your way out of things easily and reduce the work load.
    Now........now you can use things like spot treatments such peroxide with extremely high efficacy. Tank looks better, took some work and all, but the tank will be on the mend as long as you keep up on the dosing, CO2.
    Plants look better, you can stop trying to chase each new tuft of BBA growing or Staghorn and life is good.
    Now the peroxide is another one of the many little hammers and is used in conjunction with, not as sole solution to algae issues.
    Very few things by themselves will solve an algae issues.
    If you are interested in killing algae, that is another thread really, you need to have the control to induce certain species of algae and grow them in all their glory. Then you squirt chemicals on them and note the responses and environment and so forth.
    Few planted hobbyists are interested in this, they just want to solve their problem and have a nice planted tank.
    I kill aquatic weeds for my day job and we are just starting to do pilot studies with excel on Egeria and Hydrilla, the two worst aquatic weeds in CA. No doubt, it kills them and certain species of algae.
    Peroxide is also been considered but generally is poor for weeds, but not bad for algae.
    Sodium percarbonate is effective for algae and dissolves into peroxide moderately slowly, it's not enough to burn plants, but kills most of the algae on surfaces, it comes in granular form, so it sinks, hits the surface and acts like the spot treatment.
    It's better for ponds and where you need to scrub the slime off the rocks and sides there.
    Here are a number of discussions going back years:
    http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Algae/hydrogen-peroxide.html
    http://www.gpodio.com/h2o2.asp
    http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/algae/4242-black-algae-removal-works.html
    http://www.myfishtank.net/forum/fre...21262-horray-beat-dreaded-bba.html#post189843
    http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/algae/22860-peroxide-remove-algae-what-conc-2.html
    http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com/aquainfo/algae_peroxide.html
    The algae in the above link is Staghorn.
    That should keep you busy.
    Do not get frustrated, work on all of these methods/hammers, your tank will look much better.
    I have a client with a 1600 gal tank that had it entirely covered, in 3-5 days, the algae is all gone and the tank is looking super.
    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     

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