Why no kurper(tilipia)

This might be a little random etc. I love fishing and havnt been in a while but artlure has taken off in south africa recently and many indiginous fish are being caught using it. I see many ppl keep malawians etc. But why does no one keep any tilipia. Blue tilipia is obvoius as they get large but u get many small species that don't grow bigger than ur hand and they are readily available in all dams and river systems in SA such as the canary tilipia. Any ideas? And many of these fish look quite beautiful and can be bought from freshwater suppliers as fingerlings

 

would you have any pictures on the tilipia or fingerlings? i haven't seen this fish...

 

I don't have any but just have a look at google these fingerling are usually sold at R10 each. I just think so many times were so quick to look at what's across our borders that we forget that have hav our own fish.

 

I search fingerling and get potato lol!

There are so many different pics of them so i dont know which is which

 

yip, as did i troyfish, the potatoe looks delicious...

 

Yeah it does but after my little experience 20min ago....i wont be eating anything anytime soon

 

I think you would need a permit to collect the fish, and a permit to keep them. I'm pretty sure they're on the black list in SA.

Yes... I've just checked the current black list found here, and they are indeed on the blacklist.

 

Thanks Zoom. Is all the tilapia blacklisted?

 

if I'm not mistaken it's illegal to keep indiginous fish without a permit. Pitty, they are stunning little fish

 

I know some are blacklisted but how can one of the most abundent SA indiginous freshwater fish be black listed. There are suppliers that sell those fingerlings by the 1000s as feeder fish for bass barble etc. U might need a permit to collect but u can get them directly from suppliers

 

ok, you guys type way quicker than me.

 

Here is a list of all the tilipia and bream in SA waters[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Blue Kurper [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Oreochromis mossambicus)[/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]
Canary Kurper [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Chetia flaviventris)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Red Breast Kurper[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Orange-Fringed River Bream[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif](Chetia brevis)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Lowveld Kurper[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif](serranochromis meridianus)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Nembwe[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif](Serranochromis robustus[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif])[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Black Tilapia[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]- (Oreochromis placidus)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Nile Tilapia[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]- (Oreochromis niloticus[/FONT])[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Israeli Tilapia[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif](Oreochromis aureus)[/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]
Vlei Kurper [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Tilapia sparrmanii)[/FONT]

Here are some pics to.
Ok but there is a dif btw blacklisted and needs a permit how would you go abt getting a permit and the costs involved?

 

What about someone collecting a pair and trying to breed them? BTW there are some fish farms that breed some of these fish

 

I think another pro might be that all these fish can be kept without heaters as they are found in water that is experiences some very cold temps during winter but warm temps to during summer. So u could easily keep them at the rooms ambient temp and just let it inc and dec as the seasons change

 

I'm not sure if all tilapia are indigenous. I've come across Mozambique Tilapia/Blue Kurper Oreochromis mossambicus in Sandvlei, Citrusdal and Stellenbosch, both in natural water systems and man-made ponds. I don't think this is their natural range however, and they could easily displace native species owing to their ability to eat almost any food available and predatory nature. What should be done about indigenous fish in the wrong places in a country? And what is the legislation regarding removing fish from man-made water bodies?

 

Hartbeespoortdam fisheries is one of the breeders of these tilapia and other local species.

 

The kurper/tilipia fall under the cichlid family. I know that not all the tilipia species are indiginous here but we do have indiginous species though

 

Pretty much sums it up why you cant go and collect a pair and breed them etc....

 

What's the official view on removing indigenous fish that have expanded beyond their natural boundaries within a country and may be threatening other indigenous species?

 

Can them and sell to PnP.:bigsmile: