white spots

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  1. VisWolf

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    Hi guys

    My kissing gourami got whitespots and my other fish not very active
    my temp is 24 dec i put anti ick in for the white pots is there any other advice
     
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    Slowly crank the temperature up to almost 30 degrees C. Then keep it like that for at least 2 weeks. Safest way!
    Oh, also doesn't hurt to do water changes a little more often.
     
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    Oh, maybe try post a few pictures..... Helps to make 100% sure it is ich.
     
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    If it is small white spots, like 1mm or smaller and there are many that look like small pimples then it is probably ich. Post pictures so that we can help. Depending on what fish I would not go over 28degrees C... but if it is ich then you need to up the temp so that you can increase the life cycle rate of the ich. Then you also depending on what fish you have you could use plain old aquarium salt to treat ich, and don't need meds. If it is ich then you should understand how the life cycle works as when the spots are gone then it is only past one part of the cycle... you don't kill the ich on the fish, you try and kill those free swimming in the water. one you don't see any ich on a fish it means that the last one has gone free swimming. This can take up to three weeks, but if you increase the water temp then you can lower that time (typically four days to a week).
     
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    Ich is usually a bugger to get rid off. But not in possible.

    The last time I've had ich I've upped my temp to 30 it where even 32 for two days but first make sure if your fish can handle that temp. Then I treated it with salt and water changes. Did a WC and added salt after the WC, two days WC again and then salt. Did that for 4 weeks to ensure that you treated the ich through its complete cycle. Then 2 weeks WC every 3rd day. And then lowered the temp again.

    Just to explain to @VisWolf and to add to Chris post. The only time you notice ich in your tank is when it attaches to your fish. In this time of there cycle they fearly immune to treatment but start with the treatment. More or less in a weeks time they will "pop" and fall off there host "fish". It will look as if your fish has healed but as Chris mentioned the fall to bottom of the tank and then swim around looking for there next host again. In this time of the cycle is the only time that your salt or meds will work. Upping your temp speeds up the cycle therefore your will be able to treat it more then once in a months time. Do a gravel vac when doing water change it will help to remove some ich.

    good luck hope you get them sorted.
     
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    I got neons, gouramis, black widows, colourds widows, rummy nose tetra, zebra tetra, one commen placo and a few tetra cant remember the names now
     
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    set up a hospital tank if you can seprate it from the other fish asap bit depending on how long it hade it the paricite can be in hole tank witch is a bummer .... temp must go up as it shortens the life cycle of the ich . good luck
     
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    Difficult to see, but (if I am looking at the right spots) they aren't Ich to me.
    Seperating a fish with Ich isn't very usefull cause if their are spots on a fish already their will be parasites in the whole tank as well (as it is Ich offcourse). Aren't there anti-ich meds available i SA btw ???
     
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    There is a product in the UK called Esha 2000.
    Very good for treating white spot.

    There must be something similar available in SA?
     
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    Think you mean Esha Exit @Reedfish
    Esha 2000 is the med to treat secundairy bacterial and fungal issues.

    Othet Ich-meds overhere Paraguard, sera Costapur, jBL Punktol, Paraguard.

    But is this Ich.

    Btw : it it is bacterial raising the temp csn be disastrous !!!
     
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    Esha 2000 also ok for Ich.
     
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    Sorry @Reedfish but I've to disagree there. Exit is the anti Ich med and can be used together with Esha 2000 to treat the secundairy infections that Ich may cause. The manual of Esha 2000 is often misread on that.
    Dutch brand from the seventees. It never changed the ingredients.
     
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    A few years ago some of my fish were "flicking".
    The lfs suggested I use Esha 2000, and it worked.
    A few months later, outbreak of whitespot in my tank. I couldn't get to the lfs for a few days, so I tried the Esha 2000, and it worked. So ever since, I have used the E2000 and it cures the Ick every time.

    In fact, my new policy is that when I get a new fish, while I am acclimatising it in the bag, I add a drop or two of Esha 2000.
    Since I have been doing this, I have not had any problems with Ick in my tank
     
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    Thanks for the tip, well worth doing.
    I havent seen the Esha in any of the LFS's in our area.
    There are various other treatments for ich available including the popular Paraguard
     
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    That's quite remarkable. Don't you think it's strange the same brand does have an anti Ich med in stock ???

    Esha 2000 is an ancient med that never changed since the 70ties. The over- and misuse in Holland made a lot of bacteria resistant to it. If you believe the manual it will cure almost all diseases even the ones that have been proven to be untreatable as NTD.

    Esha is a smart brand that now concurs the world with the same message as they did for years in Holland. I noticed they even made different manuals for different countries.

    But as said smart (and relatively cheap) :
    If you've an ill fish and it's difficult to diagnose : use Esha 2000.
    If it recovers : Esha 2000 is a great med / if it dies it was already too far gone. (A 50/50 chance, that made Esha great hahahah). As said it's still used to treat lighter fungal / bacterial disease overhere. For more severe cases we use Sera- / Colomobo- / JBL

    Welcome to eSHa Aquarium Products
     
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    Hi guys

    My ph in the tank is 9.0 it must be 7.0 how can i bring it down
    the tap water is also 9.0 for the western cape is it hi
     
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    sho tjats high . the problem is that your ammonia becomes more toxic at higer ph making it alot harder to keep some fish that is very sensitive to ph . try drift wood or peat moss would help bring it down to 8 or 7.8 maby if you add both
     
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    And what's the hardness ?
     
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    I dit put drift wood in now and my kh level is 1khd

    thanks for your advice
     

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