White spot

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    One of my bettas has white spot.
    When i saw this i did a water change and make the temp. higher.
    He is very active. he is swimming normal and eats. He even started a bubble nest.
    He is in a 46 cm tank. Should I be worried. What else can I do to get rid of these pests.
     
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    I would use some sort of treatment.
    Not sure if you can get it in SA, but there is a product called Esha 2000 which works really well.
     
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    You really need to sort out your water qualities. 3rd fish in a month that has a disease.
    Sorry for ranting.
     
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    I bought this fish from a petshop. mabe he did get the disease there.

    Will he heal? I will do water changes every second day.
    The only treatment I have is Aquadene general treatment.
     
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    I don't really know much about treating Bettas... but search the forum. This topic has been discussed at great length
     
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    Hi Rooivlerkie,

    I swear by Sera products. There is a broad spectrum/general tonic called Omnipur that works really well for all sorts of things. There is also Mycopur which treats fungal infections, skin and gill flukes, Costapur which treats Ich (White Spot) and other parasites and Baktopur which treats mouth and fin rot and bacterial infections. They also have Ectopur water care which assists the above treatments against ectoparasites and fungi. It can also be used as a replacement for salt and it contains oxygen releasing salts which also help with boosting the water parameters which assist not only in keeping your fish healthy and keeping some diseases at bay, but also assisting in the promotion of healthy plant growth.

    HTH, just my 2c worth.
    Kim
     
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    Rooivlerkie

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    My betta has build a huge bubble nest even now that he has white spot!
    He look very happy.
    Could I add salt to the water? Would it help?
    Anything else?
    @Skye01 thanks for the help
     
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    @Rooivlerkie You should be putting salt into the aquarium anyway the dosage is usually 5ml to 50lt this helps in coating the fish's body and fins, it also helps with something else in the water for the fish (can't remember). Remember that white spote can only be killed when they are in the "free swimming" stage and not really when they are attached to the host, so you must keep up the treatment as advised and remember to do water changes too.

    Fish seem to be almost like birds, they only seem to show the signs when it's really too late, but it sounds like your betta is doing well, but keep an eye on him anyway. White spot does not go away on it's own, in fact it gets worse if left untreated which leads to his death :bawling: and if there are other fish in the aquarium with him they too will be infected.

    Remember as well that it is usuall started by stress, which can also be caused by problems with the water... HTH
     
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    Hi Guys,

    A few quick comments: the ich would have come with the fish and from the petshop it was bought from, go and complain to the owner of the LFS, he has sold you his problem and now he expects you to buy expensive medication from him, this is a cheek, he should give you the meds for free in actual fact.

    Skye, it is NOT necessary to add salt to all water that fish are kept in and this story that it helps in coating the fishes body and fins is bs (and I don't mean brineshrimp) complete and utter nonsense.

    Your comment that Ich can only be killed if in the freeswimming phase is also not correct. Medications such as Protozin actually kill the parasites in the spots.

    You must treat these fishes or else the fish will die, it does not matter that it has laid eggs and looks healthy, it will be overrun by the ich and then die, the sooner you start treatment the better. Ich is also highly infectious to fry and will kill then within 36 hours after hatching.

    Let me tell you about another little trick. Ich is a flagellate organism and there are flagellates that infect discus (I am not talking about ich here though). Metranidazole is used for the treatment of flagellates in discus and it will also kill Ich very effectively, few people know this. Use it at a dose of 7 mg/litre for three days, do a water change and repeat the dosage, and then perhaps repeat the treatment a third time if you have the feeling that the fishes have not fully recovered. Metranidazole can be bought as a generic from all pharmacies, trade names such as Flagyl and a few others are used, the stuff is cheap and far more effective than the meds from the petshop. This is also one of the safest medications to use and does not harm to the fishes or to the biological filtration.

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    Thanks for this advice Prof. Never liked using the products LPS's sell me because I'm worried it will affect filter etc.
    Sorry for hi-jack.
     
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    Hi @Dirk Bellstedt
    I have read through the old post and saw that cure you have told me now.
    I will try it. Will bought it tommorow and treat the fish. Thanks for the advise.
    I really hope the fishie heal.
     
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    Hi @ Dirk Besllstedt
    How do I measure 7 mg?
     
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    The tank is 12 L.
    Hou much of a pill should I use?
    Thanks
     
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    Rooivlerkie,

    you must use your imagination a little for the 7 mg......

    Let us see, you need 12 x 7 = 84 mg of metronidazole. So, you can buy 100mg or 200 mg tablets. So, use a 100 mg tab or half of a 200 mg tab. A slight overdose with this med is not a problem (not to be done with other meds, please DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A GENERAL RULE).

    Take the tab and squash it to a fine powder between two tablespoons then throw it into a mug, poor some cold water on it and swirl strongly with a teaspoon. All will not dissolve, but add this whole lot to the tank and it will take about an hour and then all will dissolve, don't worry about this. It also does not damage the plants.

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    Thanks @Dirk Bellstedt
    Should I crush a tablet and mix it with water every day or only every 3rd day?
    Thanks
     
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    Every third day
     
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    OK I have got the tablets. It was 200 mg. Cut it in half and done exatcly what you say. I hope it works
     
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    My betta looks very healthy. Still blowing bubbles.
    I think there are less white dots. He is still very activeand I did never saw him sratching on things Hope it is a good sign
     
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    Hi Rv,

    Glad to hear this. I would suggest that you do treat again after three days though, I want to make sure that you stop this thing properly. Keep us updated.

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     

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