Water changes heating

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    Hi

    Was wondering can I add some boiling water to my aged water to assist with heating. Water that aged over night is like 12 degrees please share your heating tips


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    @hviviers75 - Personally, I wouldn't. Boiling changes too many things in the water that the fish are not used to.

    What size containers do you use to replace water? I'm using 5l / 10l containers and if and when very cold I would run some hot water in the bath and let the containers with water soak in there a bit.

    Alternatively, get an extra heater and heat your water up that way.

    Doing daily, smaller changes also works well.

    Ps: Using boiled water for water changes is good, it's just that adding boiled water to your regular water changes the ph (debatable) and bla bla which might affect your fish because they are not used to it
     
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    I use 25 litre drums and stick in a small heater to get them to the same heat as my tank
     
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    Forgot to mention I do use a 150w heater to heat aged water. Just thought if i addba little bit of boiled water would speed up the process. I have a 100 liter bin and sometimes I do small daily 20 liter water changes for my 4 footer


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    On smaller tanks I top up water from a 15L bucket that I syphon into the tank.
    I add hot and cold water from the tap, then add some Seachem Prime, and syphon that directly into the tank.

    On larger tanks I use a 150L container, which I fill up from the garden hose, add the Prime, and then a kettle or 2 of boiling water.

    The fish are thriving, and none the worse for wear.
     
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    What % water are you changing?

    I wouldn't do it
    If you are doing small % it's not a prob is the temp drops a degree or two.
    In fact, a temp drop triggers spawning in certain types of fish.
     
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    Wow this is awesome news. I thought a little bit of boiling water would not really change ph that much. Thanks bud will do this from now on.


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    Normally I do weekly 25% wc currently I am just doing a 20 liter wc daily for a few days. So wont be adding lots of boiling water to the aged water to get it to 25%


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    In the past I would let the water stand for about 24 hours in the drum with a heater in set to the same temperature as the tank.
    Now I fill up the drum from the garden hose, add the Prime, and do the tank syphoning bit, and add the boiling water to the water in the drum.
    From there the water gets pumped into the tank with a pond pump.
    In all, the water stands for maybe a half hour before being added to the tank.

    On the smaller tanks I fill the bucket from the bath tap, add the Prime, and syphon it directly into the tank, without waiting.

    My fish and inverts are all healthy, with no problems.

    I suspect that the fish are hardier and tougher for the treatment they receive and that being too gentle is detrimental in the long run.
     
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    As a breeder changing daily, I used the cold water to my advantage to trigger spawning.
     
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    My 2c worth...I always used to add boing water to buckets of cold water to increase the temp, never had issues. On my big tank I do 1000l changes I and add hot water from the geyser to cold water in bins to get the temp to 24C, and add Seachem Safe as the declorinator.
     
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    I've made my set-up to pump water straight from my sink with the tap running into the sink as a tiny little pre-mix stage. No containers. I've mastered adjusting the tap to match the flow-rate of the pump and I add enough prime for the whole batch I'll be filling plus 10% fudge factor, to an initial sink's worth of water and thus as the tap flows it mixes with the pre-primed water already in the sink before being pumped out. However I still have the temp. problem because the incoming water in winter is freezing. So I use my mixer tap to add in some hot water while it fills and keep an eye on the temp of the water in the sink to match it as closely as I can.

    I suspected initially this may cause problems, but haven't had any so far. I'm open to reasons why this is wrong though.
     
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    So three members are doing it with great success and worries and healthy happy fish. So I will let my water age for a couple of hours with seachem prime and then on wc day I will just add enough boiling water to adjust temps will add a few drops of prime also.


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    Any more inputs guys really why is this forum so quite


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    We run water mixed to right temperature into 50l buckets and add prime and pump into tanks straight away
    So far no problems and we do this in the stingray tank too
     
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    I dont know why everyone is so worried about increasing the temp of the new water when doing a WC.

    Remember...fish are cold blooded...so if your "new/fresh" water is warmer than your tank water and causes a spike upwards, you'll cause great stress to your fish.

    I age my water (with SAFE) for at least 24hrs...then I do my WC's. Granted in my fishroom I have drip systems...so it's not like I'm dumping a bucket of water into a tank in the space of 10 seconds. Cooler water than those of the tank is beneficial in a number of ways...AND the fish can tolerate it without any issues. Rain water falling into pools or streams...are a lot cooler and decreases the temps sharply (specially in shallow, cut-off pools).

    Think the most important part is not dumping huge quantities of water into your tank within a few seconds. As mentioned...in my fishroom i have drip systems...and for my display tank...I pump the new/fresh water into my tanks with a small pump... it takes about 1min to pump 2liters into the tank(s)
     
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    From everything I've read, you should aim not to vary the temp by more than 2 degrees C when doing waterchanges, preferably downwards as deadpool suggests.
    At present my tap water is around 15C, my tanks around 25C, so doing a 50% WC would drop the temp to about 20C which I believe is too low, I preheat my water to about 23C.
    Conversely when adding fish to a tank, it's better to add fish to warmer water than to colder water, should you not be able to acclimatize by floating a bag or dripping tank water into it.
     
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    Careful when using hot water from your tap .. I recall some post back (as in years) that allot of older houses that have copper pipes had more copper in the hot water tap stream than the cold. I suppose the same goes for your kettle if the element is warn.

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    Above a typical temp graph for tanks that do not having a heater in the fishroom, all still seem fine - so if I had to do a WC on these (not that I do anything other than top-ups at the moment) it would probably not be the best idea to do it straight from that tap as I normally would. In this case having a drum in the fishroom that is also at this temp would work a charm.

    I try to feed less in winter, less fertz for the plants and then less worries about WC, just do the evaporation top-up.

    Later Ferdie

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