Venustus pregnancy... Does she get fat?

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    I have a venustus... and she is fat.

    I have have baby venustus before (the babies appeared), but haven't noticed them getting fat. With my Mbuna's I only noticed once they were carrying in their mouth.

    Do you guys think she's getting ready to mate or is it bloat?
    Her behavior is breeding behavior (Compared to Mbuna), as she hides/ keeps away from the rest.


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    The male and other fish also seem to leave her alone.

    Maybe just a uninformed question, but could a compriceps and a Venustus mix?
     
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    Did she arrive like this? Did it happen suddenly, or over a long period? What is their diet like? And their appetite? Any other behaviour changes?

    Big bellies could mean one of many things, from being ripe with eggs (good), to egg retention (bad), to overfeeding (not good, but it happens), to some sort of disease - ranging from constipation, to an internal parasite, to a swimbladder issue (or other internal problem).

    My first guess/idea would be diet. I've seen it in other predatory Malawi cichlids being kept among Mbuna, in that these fish might ingest a lot of what is marketed as "Malawi food", but the food is rather heavy in vegetable content as it is primarily geared toward Mbuna. Fish like your Venestus, Compressiceps, Livingstonii, etc. are a little less capable of digesting these greens-heavy diets, and occasionally problems like this pop up.

    And to answer your question, no, I don't believe that Venestus and Compressiceps can interbreed. Mate recognition among Malawi cichlids relies strongly on visual identification of mating partners, so such visually different fishes are unlikely to attempt this... never mind the likely genetic incompatibility of these distantly related fishes.
     
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    Looks like advanced bloat to me.

    Seriously doubt Venustus and (Dimidiochromis) Compressiceps will naturally interbreed. Altolamprologus definitely won't.
     
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    not a malawi expert and know even less about haps but to me the fish looks to have a digestion issue and fat tummy is to far forward on fish to be eggs. ready to breed egg heavy female normally have fat tummy more over the anal fin.
    what foods are you feeding?
    is the fish still eating and active?
    fins look good so she is not being bullied but would watch out for that as well
     
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    Thanks, also think she has bloat. Doing a Epsom salt treatment, will see how it turns out. At least there is currently no aggression towards her. Keeping the water in good condition, with large water changes every 2 days
     
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    good luck
    post pics of how it goes and what you have done.
    even if it goes wrong so other might learn
     
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    Dont think she is going to make it, double her previous size and now just hiding. Will post pictures if she comes out. as she's as big as a fish with dropsy almost:(
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    the right thing to do now is euthanize, all the organs are being squeezed and the fish will eventually die of organ failure
    here's how
     
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    it is a shame but i do agreed
     

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