Upgrading my tank

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    Hi everyone!
    I'm super excited to announce I've just gotten an 85L tank!
    I'm super excited to get it set up I just need to get a lid for it and all the necessary stuff.
    Any tips on setting it up would be super appreciated!

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    Hi @T. Guppy ,

    Welcome to the Forum and congratulations on your new tank

    We look forward to your new project

    Tell us a little about yourself .. will help us have an idea of at what level you need tips and advice
    Is this your first tank?
    What are your ideas for this tank?
     
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    Good luck with the project.

    As MariaS says, what sort of fish are you planning on keeping?
     
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    Congrats on the new tank!
    Projects like these should not be taken lightly, choice of fish will define whether the tank is planted, semi planted or no plants. This will also help you decide on proper filtration, soil and lighting.

    Having some idea will guide you and give the members some direction to assist :)
     
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    Thank you!
    So currently I have a 30L tank that I started this past December. That's my first tank. I'm thinking of transferring my fish from there into this bigger tank once it's properly set up and been running for a while.
    My fish include 3 black neon tetras, 4 head and tail light tetras, 2 guppies, 2 albino corys and 1 assassin snail. I have a few plants, but I don't know their names.
    Also, I am a 2nd year university student, so that means a lot of the time I'm broke, so I can't afford too many super high tech expensive equipment. Luckily this tank was given to me for free, so i now have spare cash for equipment and decorations that would've been spent on a tank
     
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    the best route i would go is a low tech... which i am currently going to setup. I'm waiting since 4 years to scape my tank

    for substrate you trie your hand at potting mix organic (R20,00 a bag) just sift, rince and dry a couple of times to mineralize and you're good to go on substrate. cap with pool filter sand and plant.

    light you could use a LED flood light (6000K) ~ R120,00

    with the potting mix you can use your imagination and alot of people have tried this method with great results.

    filtration external is great but you could try HOB internals

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    Congrats on the new tank.

    When you mentioned the 30 litre tank, the first thing I thought of is a sump.

    To save a bit of money on expensive filtration, you can create a sump with your 30 litre tank and that's all the filtration you need. Find out if anyone you know has a few pieces of glass lying around and you can do it yourself. You would just need to have the tank drilled and be willing to be patient and do a bit of work on it :)
     
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    I didn't know know you could use potting soil in fish tanks! Sounds really interesting
     
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    And the guy who gave me the tank also suggested converting my 30l to a sump, and from what I've read about it, it seems very effective
     
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    And affordable. The nice thing is you can custom design it.
     
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    85l does not allow for loads of error ... potting soil is a gamble in smaller tanks but 85l is way better than say the 30l ;-) nice upgrade.

    Your trick is going to be the mineralization part ... not sure what your garden is like - maybe even a dirt tank could work. Or stick to PFS and plats that attach to wood etc.

    Alway nice to have a blank canvas.

    Later Ferdie
     
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    One of the great things about a sump is that it increases the water volume of the tank, which brings more stability of water parameters.
     
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    On a smallish tank like that 3ft, I would not bother with a sump.
    I would rather go with a good filtration system. A strong HOB filter is less hassle than an internal filter, as it is easier to clean.
    You could also get a small canister filter, like the Cascade 500, 700 or similar.
    Go with the best your budget allows.

    There are a number of good options if you want to to the planted route.
    Seachem, ADA, Langa, Prodibio all make excellent substrates for your tank, that you simply rinse, and use.
    Alternatively you can use PFS or Volcanic black sand, and use Osmocote gel capsules or similar to feed plants.

    I would be careful with potting soil.
    Too many things can go wrong.
    You could introduce unknown or unwanted pathogens to your tank.
    Even capped with a denser layer like PFS you will probably still experience leakage of potting soil, that will dirty up the tank very quickly.
    When removing or replanting plants, you will also experience leakage of the potting soil.

    Low-tech is plenty good enough, until you have built up more experience, and have a bigger budget to play with.
    There are hundreds of different types of plants that you could use, that don't require high-tech setups.
    It is a matter of doing some homework, and seeing what is available in your area.

    You could start with something simple like Anubias tied or glued to some driftwood or rocks.
    Add Java Fern if you wish, or even Bolbitis.
    For plants in the substrate there are many easy growing plants.
    Amazon Swords, Cryptocoryne Wendtii, Apenogeton Crispus, Vallisneria, Ludwigia, and hundreds of other plants are easy to grow, and require low maintenance apart from fertiliser and trimming.

    Get the best light you can afford.
    Your plants and fish will appreciate it.

    Other than that, have fun.
     
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    On my two foot planted tank, I am running a HOB filter (purely with bio ceramic rings) and an internal filter with sponge.

    It's going well so far with plants and all. If I had the option, however, I would go with a sump. Unfortunately I don't have space...

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    I just went back to look at the pic of the new tank you shared. I suggest you get some bracing glass cut for the front and the back, running the length of the tank :)
     
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    @Lowflyer7 what would the bracing glass's purpose be if I may ask?
     
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    From my experience with those standard 3 foot tanks, the glass bows quite a bit when filled with water. The bracing gives the front and back glass extra support to prevent the glass from bowing and possibly breaking if bumped.
     
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    Oh I see. Thanks for the heads up!
     
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    Thank you! This is all very helpful!!
     
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    Hi everyone!

    So I've finally gotten around.to setting up my new tank. I haven't put in any plants or ornaments yet, because I'm super fussy and haven't yet found anything I like.

    Here's a picture of the tank now running with gravel

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