Tank Disaster

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  1. Reafer

    Reafer

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    Hi guys
    I had a bit of a disaster in my malawi tank. 2 malawi's and a CAE which are my oldest fish and i never have problems with them. What happened was i cleaned there filter at about 7pm on monday night checked up on them at about 8pm turned there lights off and covered the tank to save abit of power dew to cold weather. At some stage during the night (between 8pm and 8am) the pump came loose from the filter , so all the was happening was that the water was being pushed around the tank with NO filtering happening. When i got up and seen what had happened i smelt the water and it didnt smell good. I did a 60% water change and reattached the filter. The one malawi looked like it had some fungus growing on its tail and on its side were it had a little nip so i added salt to the tank 40g for 100L of water and left it for yesterday , last night i noticed that both malawi's in the tank had abit of fuzz on there eyes, now i started getting worried. This morning the wound on the tail looked abit better but the fuzz on the eyes were still there , but it hadnt become worse. I then noticed my CAE and his eyes looked like they had a white film over them . I went to the LFS and got something called :
    Danio's general Aid
    New improved Germany formula
    Efective Cure:
    Bacterial disease , finrot,fungus,cotten-wool disease , lesions , ulcers and sores.

    It does not have whats in it though.....
    and it also recommends turning my temperatur up to 29 degrees
    Is there anything else i can do?
    The fish are behaving sort of normally the CAE isnt moving around as much.
    Thanks
    Antony
     
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  3. Gareth

    Gareth Angel Freak

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    what you have described it seems to to popeye.
    I have had it in my tank as well, what I did was use tetra fungus stop and it took it away with in 2 weeks but I did a water change (30%) every 3 day and added the meds till it was gone and I turned up my heater to 29 or 30 deg
    I hope this help because there is no much more you can do.
     
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    Update:
    It hasnt gotten worse the fluff on the body has gone but the eyes still have abit. I want to do another 25% water change today , the meds say i have to add a full dose every 2nd day , which is tomorrow but i dont want to leave the water change till then, so my question is do i just add the amount of meds depending on how much water i take out today or do i just do a water change and do a full dose of meds tomorrow?
    PS and i started adding cycle today to try help
     
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    I would do the water change today and add a full dose tomorrow
     
  6. veegal

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    If you really want to do water changes in between, and I don't think this is a bad idea at all - I'd medicate as follows: Do water change and do not add any further medication, tomorrow add the full dose PLUS the extra bit for the water change done becausea lot of the medications increase the medication gradually so that it 'builds up' gradually to a higher strength. Just my opinion but I should stress that I have never done water changes between dosages unless the instructions call for it. I usually wait until the treatment period is complete before doing water changes and IF the sypmtoms are still there after the first treatment period then I do a larger water change before starting a second treatment period.

    By treatment period I am referring to a completion of a medication course i.e some medications say to treat on day 1,3,5,6 and 8 so the water change would take place on day 9 and a new treatment cycle started on day 10 should symptoms still be present.
     
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    i am also inclined to not do a water change but i just abit scared with the filter problem and most probly most of my bacteria died that the water goes abit funky :p thats why i started adding cycle
     
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    right so i have had a good look now . it only seems to be affecting the fishes eyes. the one has gotten worse . it looks like a milky film over the eyes with a bubble type thing in the middle .anyone have any ideas? is it popeye?
     
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    Carping MTS Victim

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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Extract from Waterlife website[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SYMPTOMS
    [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3. Whitish skin lesions (body rot), haemorrhages, wasting of body tissue, ulcerations. Greyish-white film develops over eye and can lead to "pop-eye" and terminally, very fast breathing (90+ GB/min.).[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISEASE
    [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A) BACTERIAL - caused by several species of rod-shaped, motile, (="mobile"), Gram-negative bacteria of Pseudomonas/vibrio group.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]or[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]B) INTESTINAL WORMS[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TROPICAL FRESHWATER & COLDWATER AQUARIA
    [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In a soft, acid water aquarium, improve the water quality and decrease bacteria-count with HUMAQUAT. Use MYXAZIN as a water treatment, and (if possible) by brush application. Increase aeration and filtration to maximum acceptable level. If only Mollies are affected by greyish-white body film remove to a 10%-20% ULTRAMARINE seawater solution before commencing treatment. Or add 10% ULTRAMARINE seawater to aquarium if salinophobic species not present.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In event of diagnosis B - STERAZIN [/FONT]
     
  10. Laure

    Laure Cyano Terminator

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    I'm afraid with Cycle you are wasting money. It does not work. Tetra Safe Start is better but costs about 4x as much! But we know for sure it works. Google reviews on these products...

    Sorry for the hijack, but I would like to know if anybody else has an opinion on this and if any products really work well. For example, if I had overcleaned and have a mini-spike. How can I quickly restore the bacteria population?
     
  11. Zafgak

    Zafgak Old fart

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    HI Laure - MicrobeLift has a bacteria gel, that you add to EXACTLY where you want the bacteria to be - they also have a tank cycling set of products.. PM me or Vee for specifics
     

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