Suggestions for new 3ft shrimp tank.

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    I am in the process of setting up a new 3ft shrimp tank.
    As this is going to be another breeding tank, with the aim of catching shrimp, a heavily planted tank would be lovely, but not practical.

    There are 3 smallish pieces of driftwood soaking in a bucket, that I can attach epiphytic plants to.
    Anubias, Bolbitis, Bucephelandra and Java Fern are available in small quantities in my other tanks.

    The background is black vinyl, with the reverse side being a shockingly bright blue.

    Substrate is inert black sand.

    Lighting is supplied by a Zetlight Lancia ZP4000-895, while filtration consists of a Cascade 200 HOB, with a sponge over the intake, and a small sponge filter running off a TetraTec Whisper 150 for surface agitation as well as additional grazing place for shrimp.

    At this stage it is almost a blank slate, and I am open to suggestions as to what to do with regards to scaping the tank.

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    Perhaps a moss wall on one side?

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    I am actually busy cutting some new plastic mesh for a Susswassertang wall I want to try again.
    The previous one I had in my 2ft worked very well.

    All I need is some Susswassertang, as I gave away all I had when I converted my tanks to guppy breeders.

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    Ooh lucky you to have a blank canvass to play with!

    So because you’ll need to catch shrimp and assuming you would then rather stick to things you can remove from the tank (epiphytes) and no rooted plants, this is what I’d do:

    - if you have some extra substrate, raise it at the back to slope up and create perspective

    - epiphytes on driftwood as you said.

    - epiphytes on stones that can also be removed when needed. Eg if you superglue java fern to even a pebble (just to weigh it down) it will grow upright and eventually look like an amazon sword and can be moved to the background as it grows larger. Java fern Windelov is something I’d like to get my hands on.

    - Same with anubias, buce etc on stones - they will look planted but the rhizomes will actually be above the substrate, only the roots will find their way into the substrate but can be removed when needed. Anubias bonsai is a real winner for foreground with its small leaves, compact growth habit and a nice green.

    - bolbitit baby leaf (mini bolbitis) is quite cute and a more manageable size for a shrimp tank.

    - mosses eg flame moss, weeping moss grown on wood like in the vid below, that can also be removed. I’ve been really inspired by @Ammar ’s TOTM entry (shrimp tank with lots of mosses grown to look like shrubs), would like to try something like that myself

     
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    Oh that looks fantastic! If you lived close by I could give you lots of susswassertang. I actually planned on making a moss wall for the 65L today but perhaps I should use the susswassertang I already have. Looks great :thumbup:

    Edit: what is the grid size on the mesh roughly?
     
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    @A new day thanks for the suggestions.
    It is basically what I already have envisioned for the tank.
    I just need a new source for plants, as the plants I have still need some serious growing out to do.

    Mini Bolbitis is impossbible to acquire.
    Nobody seems to have any.
    Plantae Nursery used to have, but I haven't seen any adverts of theirs in ages.

    Another plant I would to get more of, is Cryptpcoryne Retrospiralus.
    I have 1 plant, but would love more.
    It is a stunning background plant, but like most Crypts grows incredibly slowly.
    A professor in Johannesburg has some in his tank, and I got a single leaf with a root from him, and in almost a year there are now 7 leaves.

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    Wow that crypt retrospiralus is such a great accent plant, haven’t seen it before! Reminds me of some of the criniums.
    My bolbitis mini was a random and very lucky find at a lfs here. I bought both they had in stock, would also like more.
    The anubias bonsai was couriered in from Aqua Empire. It was a single pot (normal, not in vitro). Good quality plant.

    Have only recently discovered in vitro pots for anubias (got 1 pot of nana petite) and am very impressed with the growth I’m getting from the 6 plantlets it contained!
     
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    Bucephelandra Lamandau Purple is happily growing and flowering in one of my tanks at the moment.
    I got a single plant from Dorry Pets about 2 years ago.
    It hasn't grown enough that I can split it yet.

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    Beautiful! I’d be so excited to get flowers eventually.
    I only have 1 type of buce at the moment (from a single pot of buce theia). Just wanted to see if I can get buce to grow, seems to go well so keen to try my hand with more species.
    I have serious plant collectivitis :lol: in the garden also
     
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    I managed to find 3 Cryptocoryne Crispatula var. Balansae at a local LFS.
    They grow quite tall, so placed in the back of the tank as a focal point.
    Also got 3 pots of Anubias Barteri, which will be glued to driftwood.
    Some Bucephelandra Melawi "purple" is drifting around, waiting for the driftwood to come out of the bucket.
    Finally, a handful of Susswassertang is still in a bag, waiting for me to get some spine binders to complete a mesh wall.

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    Nice!
    Please could you document how you make the mesh wall? I have a good idea how it’s done from watching YouTube videos, but the spine binders sound interesting.
    Also, what grid size do you like for susswassertang? I reckon around 5mm should work well (slightly larger than for mosses)?
     
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    Another day, and another update.
    I added some Anubias Barteri to a piece of driftwood, and also some Dragon Rock to the tank.
    Once the Cyptocoryne Balansae grows out a bit, it will tower over the rock.

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    The tank is slowly taking shape.
    It has been running since 22/11/2019, so it's been 3 weeks since I set it up.

    I have added a couple of plants, but decided to use the Susswassertang wall in my 45L shrimp breeder tank.
    There are a couple of pieces of Susswassertang in it, so hopefully in 6 months or so I will have enough to redo it properly, to the extent my previous wall was.
    Plants added are Limnophila Aromatica, as well as some Microsorum Pteropus (Java Fern.)
    The growth on the Cryptocoryne Balanseae has been astonishing.
    I have been dosing Seachem Flourish Advance daily, at a reduced dosage.

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    Love it @Pezulu

    Its going to look stunning once established
     
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    Wow yes that crypt balansae took off amazingly with no melt! Seachem Advance is great!
    Seems as if the anubias have also pushed out new leaves, or are they just in a different position?
     
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    After 3 weeks I have added the first livestock to get the tank running and seeded with beneficial bacteria.
    I added 3 Honey Dwarf Gourami, as they will be compatible with the other fish in my community tank, and I can transfer them to the community tank in about 3 months time.
    There are also 3 Nerites in the tank.

    3 seems to be a common denominator in this tank.
    It is a 3 foot tank.
    There are 3 Honey Gouramis, as well as 3 Nerites.
    There are 3 small pieces of driftwood, as well as 3 small pieces of dragon rock.
    Plants consist of 3 pieces of Cryptocoryne Balanseae and 3 pots of Limnophila Aromatica.
    Finally there are 3 Anubias Barteri glued to some driftwood.
     
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    I am astounded at the growth in this tank.
    The Limnophila Aromatica was planted a week ago, and it is visibly growing.
    The Cryptocoryne Balanseae has grown to the surface and is starting to bend over like some Vallisneria.

    There are now 6 Honey Gourami in the tank, and they have started settling in.
    They will remain in the tank for about 3 months, and then be transferred to the community tank, by which time I want to get some shrimp for the tank.

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    That is some solid growth .. nice one @Pezulu

    What lights you running on this one ?

    Later Ferdie
     
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    Thanks Ferdie
    Light is a Zetlight Lancia 895.
     

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