Starting again, and need help

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  1. Q89

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    So I will be starting over with my 450L aquarium.

    It is 1500x500x700(LxBxH) with water level at 600.

    Will be using:
    2 1000L/H canisters.
    2 250W heaters.
    Substrate, not sure yet.
    Lights, not sure, what do you guys think? How many T8 will suffice?

    So what do I still need to put into the plan guys and girls?

    Thanx
    Q
     
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  3. mark d

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    What do you want to keep in it? Malawis, community tank, Oscars again or would you like a biotype?
     
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    Anyone??
     
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    @Q89 seems like the forum people are out of ideas :)

    Ok let me ask you this, big or small fish?

    I might do a heavy driftwood tank, few plants that will grow on things and
    then a few types of severums, gold, red spotted and green.

    Or a few plants that grow big and tall with a few large angels and I am not
    talking these tiny 10cm high angels. Bottom a little more rocky with nice featured
    rocks.

    Plan 3, run the water at about 330mm and build a rock feature that rises out of the
    water higher up in the tank and use that top part for some unique flower plants
    and terrestrial mosses. Rocks must have a dark colour and almost the same look as bio rock. Maybe ad a small stream from top to bottom.

    Plan4

    Rock or woodwork with no plants and a few dark caves, low lighting and some awesome
    predator fish.

    Plan 5

    Do a complete planted tank, dutch style or something.

    Plan 6

    Use it to breed hamsters :)

    So what tickles your mind and we can work on more ideas from there. After that we can plan
    lights, substrate etc
     
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    Ok small extension on plan 3, still run the water at 330 but create two volcanic island type
    structures above the water line.
    You know the look the marine guys use, two opposite islands with connecting rockwork?
    That idea but the tops breaking the surface with some smaller flower plants and things and maybe even
    a bee :)
     
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    Firstly, if you are going to be doing a planted tank, then T8 lighting is no where near good enough. T5 is the way to go here, but with that depth of water at 600mm, then I fear you may even have to go Metal Halide, for the light to penetrate that depth of water sufficiently. If you are going 330 -400mm, then T5 would be best.

    The idea of the half immersed and half emmersed planted tank is a cool idea, but it would need a hell of a lot af gardening skill to pull it through, and make it look lekker! But it certainly can be done!

    With regards to substrates, the darker the better for aesthetic reasons. A dark substrate makes fish and plant colours POP! They look amazing over a darker substrate in my opinion. Also, flourite is a great planting medium for aquatic plants! It's expensive, but it is worth it. You get the red and the dark and brown, so you get a bunch of colours.

    If you wanted to go proper planted, then investing in Co2, ferts and lighting is the key, and your system would look stunning as a planted tank that size!! Some nice bogwood and a couple of rocks, with a mass of plants... Awesome.

    Good luck and keep us posted!!!
     
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    Thanx for all the input guys!

    Can I put Angels in a planted tank, or will lots of smaller fish like rams and tetras be better?
     
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    Angels make fantastic community tank fish with tetras and Rams!! They all come from the same place in the world, so they would be very happy together!
     
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    I was thinking of going with peat as the substrate, and capping it with sand. Can anyone tell me where to get more info about using it?
     
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    I've done this before, but you need to use Peat Plates. The normal Peat moss stuff will cause rotting below your substrate.

    You could use Palm Fiber peat soaked in chemicult beneath your substrate. This way, the PFP soaks up nutrients which your plant roots will love!
     
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    Who makes cemicult, never seen it anywhere here in Swakopmund.
     
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    You should be able to find it in a plant nursery or hardware store.
     
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    Will go look at our plant nursery! Thanx!
     
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    So for the stock list I was thinking the following
    10 Angelfish
    5 Peppered Corydoras
    5 Bronze Corydoras
    10 Lemon tetras
    10 Glowlight tetras
    10 Black Phantom tetras
    10 Red Phantom tetras

    The Angelfish will be the main attraction of the tank.
    Anything you guys will add or subtract?
     
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    Personally, and it's really just a personal thing here, you get much nicer corys than the Bronze and peppered varieties... I'd go for Pandas, or Juliis or schwartzies... They are much nicer than the bronze and peppers.

    The angelfish are cool, try get the marble angels. They are stunning. Just be aware that if they begin to pair up, they get very aggro at breeding time...

    As for the Tetras, why not try something like Cardinals? A nice big school of cardinals looks amazing in a big tank! Maybe look at one or 2 bigger schools of one or 2 species. It looks way more natural and it makes the tank feel more authentic as a biotope, instead of a bunch of fish thrown into a tank?

    Personally, I'd leave off the Phantoms. They could nip the angels fins.

    a big school of lemon tets and a big school of Glowlights or cardinals would look awesome!!!
     
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    Does anyone have a pics of the cemicult stuff? @slagter maybe?
     
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    Blue bag, about the size o of a bag of salt, with red writing on it.

    Sent from my Tablet using Tapatalk
     
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    Cause I only saw a blue container at our nursery, so not sure if it is the right stuff? Was a light blue container with a ratio of 1:2:6. And it said plant food with trace elements, it also has a picture of a cabbage on it?
     
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    I don't have any pics because I've never used it before!
     
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    Does anyone know whether I can use Seagro Organic Plant Food to mix with the PFP?

    N: 53g/kg
    P: 7 g/kg
    K: 17g/kg

    Thanx
     

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