seachem flourish

hi everyone i just want to know can i use seachem flourish in my tank thats full of fish ? is it harmfull to them or is this product only for planted tanks ???

 

its safe for fish any ferts for plants is designed to be fish safe. planted tanks also have fish i them :smile1:

 

thank you so much

 

Ryno and Happyboy,

In general what you say Ryno is correct, in other words that plant ferts are safe to use with fishes, but you need to be careful when you make such a statement. Fertilizers cannot be added in large amounts if you keep fishes, you must use them according to instructions and what you also need to know is how hard your water is or else you could be adding far too much of the one or other component and then this definitely is VERY negative for fishes.

It also depends on which fishes you are keeping. If you are keeping fishes that can tolerate harder water then you can use more fertilizer but if you want to keep softwater fishes such as angels, many of the tetras and even discus, then you cannot add so much fertilizer.

What I also want to add is that we have had very extensive discussions on the safety of some of the products used for plant feeding, products which add carbon to the water for the plants to use and you can read some of this here: http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/s...uteraldehyde)/page15&highlight=glutaraldehyde

So, bottom line is you need to do your homework and plant ferts will very definitely have a negative influence on your fishes if you do not use them according to instructions and according to your water and your fishes. This is not so straightforward.

Kind regards,

Dirk

 

thx for the reply dirk could this be the reason why my guppies died ? if i used too much ferts ?

 

.....but, I thought you said your guppies had died because the gourami harassed them?
http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?14332-Yipeeeeeee-!!!!

 

yes my wife saw him kill one of them so i asummed it was the gourami but i put him in another tank and still some of them die so im just looking at all possibilities

 

and the strange thing its only my guppies non of my other fish dies

 

Ah, ok - now I get it! Well, if it is only the gups then I doubt it was the fertz. I shall add that although guppies are supposed to be bulletproof, we have had quite a few cases of guppies dying for no apparent reason and reached the conclusion that they're not always as hardy as they ought to be.

 

i have neons silver tips albinos suckers swordtails zebras aand non of them dies its only my guppies so im really clueless .I need a to know what i did wrong so i dont do it again !

 

I'm going to give you the link to the disease questionnaire. We need lots of info in order to see the big picture and try and help. Anything else will just be guesswork. Fill it in as far as you can - you might not understand why some of the ??? are there, but they all have a purpose.

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?6393-Identifying-Disease-Questionnaire

 

General
Where do you stay?rayton
How long have you been keeping tropical fishes?3 months
How long has the tank been running before you added fish/this fish?1 week
What fish do you have in your Tank (type, number and size)?+- 40 neon tetra , +-50 guppies , 2 sword tails , big sucker +- 20 cm , albino shark , +-20 silver tipped tetra 10 platies small
When did you last buy any new fish?2 weeks ago
Which food are you feeding and how often do you feed?tropical flakes 2 times a day
Disease
Describe the problem that the fish is having (behaviour, breathing, excretion (droppings), food intake, colour)?fish just start to slow down in the water and then after a while they almost spin head first into the gravel and then they float
Is the fish eating?yes
Has the problem occurred before?:no
Have you treated the problem and how?no
Have you had any other problems in the past?no
What were they?------
Did you treat for these problems?------
How?----

Your aquarium & Maintenance
How big is the tank. (L x b x h)?2200 x 600 x 800
How many litres of water?+- 1060 L
What type of filter do you run?canister filter
What is IN the filter?lava rock , plastick round balls ?? ,charcoal ,plastic pallets ?? ,sponge
How many litres per hour is the filter rated for?1200
How often do you clean your tank?2 times a week
How do you clean your tank?suction hose
How much water do you take out for Water chadont knownge?30 %
Do you prepare your water for water changes? How and what do you add?no and add dechlor and prime
What water do you use. (Tap, bore hole, RO)?tap water
What substrate do you have?small gravel
What else is in the tank (Rocks, plants, fake plants, shells, anything else)?slate tile rocks and real plants

Water parameters in your aquarium
Describe the water (smell and colour)?it smelled like something died
Temperature of the water?between 23 and 26 deg
General hardness (GH)?dont know
Carbonate hardness (KH)?dont know
Ammonia:
Nitrite (No2-)?in spec
Nitrate (No3-)?in spec
pH 7.2
How did you test these? Have you checked the expiry date on the test kits?test kit , yes

Lights
What light do you have?40 w tube light
How long is the light on for?8 hours
Do you have lots of plants in the tank (real or fake)?a couple real plants
How do you fertilize the plants?seachem ferts

If possible, can you post some pictures of
(1) The sick fish died flushed
(2) A close up of the sick fish, and/or effected area none
(3) the full tank.will post pics

 

i tried to answer all Q to what i know

 

@HAPPYBOY Do you have dirt under your gravel?.

 

No i dont but i took out all my water and changed my substrate so hofully it would go better from now on

 

sounds like amonia spike. did you add all that fish at once?

 

only the guppies all at once but i did tests for amonia and its was in spec according the chart . Its a big tank i dont think amonia would be an issue , or would it ?

 

the tank is only runing for a short while hey? i dont know even if its small fish they stillproduce amonia after the guppies you add all the other fish at once? the tank is running for 3months now?

 

no i add the guppies last my other fish was fine and still is but my guppies goes one by one maybe the are sick or something

 

i can also add i bought a couple of tanks of someone and he delivered the tanks with 5 cm of water still in them its about a 2 houers drive With no air or heater at about 9pm i was pretty upset with the guy and tried to get the guppies in good water as soon as possible i think i made a mistake adding them all at once ?