Regarding water plants. Most of the lfs in my area get their plants from the same supplier, why can one shop display their plants with names and the other 4 just donâ€™t bother. Sure there is a bit of effort and to go through all that trouble for one or two customers just is not worth it. But why donâ€™t we, who spend the money, not target the suppliers. Now I am thinking specifically Amatikulu, that has this nice website, why donâ€™t we as a forum (and the other aquatic plant forum, jointly) kindly request them to put an ID section on their website as a service to us that jointly pay their salaries. With photos of all their plants they produce, specifically photos of the plants in their terrestrial form, as they grow them and we will find them in the shop. Also supply a name list with picture or drawing to their customers with each shipment they send out. And as a reward we can draw up a list of all the shops we support or frequent and send it to them, thus increasing their customer base as well. Well I have been thinking about this and one reason they might not want to do this is because then they identify the non aquatic plants that they so casually sell to non suspecting lfs owners, but we can suggest that they market these plants as " Suitable for terrarium use" I feel a revolution coming on, how about it Henk, Rory; What you say?