Holes in plant leaves

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    I have recently treated my tank with methylene blue everything is fine but the plants are dying now its been dying slowly for the past week is the small holes and then the eventually almost transparent leaf breaking off caused by the methylene blue or could it be caused by way to much movement in the water I have a submersable filter busy moving all the tops of the plants quite a lot. Thanks for the help I do have a red spectrum light and I'm new to the planted tank so I'm not sure what's going on. If it is the methylene blue how can I save the plant if I can't can I just perform water changes for a few weeks and then restock. Thanks a lot help is much appreciated
     
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    Can I ask why you treated with MB?

    I recall the Prof saying in another thread that this stuff belongs in the museum.
     
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    For the pleco he is very sensitive to other meds. And I didn't have another tank to put him in. But the plants started getting holes slowly over the past week it wasn't like instantly or over night. Is the water movement ok or should there be little water movement in the tank
     
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    Snyper,

    It has got nothing to do with water movement, methylene blue, as Dolphin indicates, is toxic to plants and they will slowly disintergrate if you use it.

    I also want to repeat that methylene blue is not effective against most bacteria and fungi because of overusage and as a result most bugs are resistant to it. I repeat that it belongs in the museum and as you have experienced only has negative consequences.

    I actually think that we need to start a sticky thread somewhere spelling out the negative consequences that the use of some medications can have.

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    Dirk, a thread like that would help used noobs out a lot. It will probably save us a lot of money as well. Thanks.
     
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    Never mind the money it will save, just think about the amount of fishy lives it would save.
     
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    Ok so its a few weeks later got rid of the old plants they were dying so i put a new one in 2 weeks ago and its growing well and then i bought 3 this weekend and they are all dying they are going see through and losing all their colour but the plant i got 2 weeks ago is growing nicely still whats going on with the plants?
     
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    Are you giving these plants any fertilizer?

    Kind regards,

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    Dirk,

    That is assuming these plants bought at Snypers LFS are actually true aquatics....
     
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    I didnt know i needed to use any fertilizer the others are growing very well i guess thats why fertilizer never came to mind, could not using any fertilizer actually have such a dramatic effect. The thing is the plants leaves started going see through and breaking off almost within say 24-48 hours
     
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    maybe up a photo of the plants that we can see
     
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    sounds like you have been sold garden plants as aquatic plants - can we have some photos please?
     
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    Could it be that the plants in the tank originally were growing very well on the nutrient being produced, and now with the additional plants there isn't enough nutrients?

    I would also be willing to bet that the plants are not tru aquatic plants, and in my experience, 50% of the plants I've ever bought from an LPS are bog water plants, and not aquatic. (Bog water means roots in the water, leaves above water)
     
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    I have 4 bunches of elodea growing beautifully but have no idea whats wrong with these they were fully submerged at the shop and looked so beautiful and now theyre just dying here are the pics

    here is a picture of the entire plant hope the quality is ok used my phone if not ill upload better ones later if needed thanks for all the help

    leaves.jpg

    1.jpg

    2.jpg
     
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    1st of all you need to take the plant out of the pots - 2ndly they look like garden and bog plants to me....

    I would also like to point out that Elodea is an invasvie weed and on all the black lists.... illegal to have, trade and transport
     
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    The plants need to be taken out of the pots. The glass fiber stuff they come packed in is dangerous for fish's gills. Plus I've seen soo many plants roots rot inside those pots.

    Next, get rid of the illegal stuff... Henk won't be your friend unless you do... And I would highly recommend using ferts in the water. Also don't know how good your lighting is.
     
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    Ill get those plants out their pots and I'm assuming the best way to get rid of the elodea safely is burn it? Ah ill be really annoyed if those plant are as u say bog plants and even worse to see that the shop is selling illegal plants which is really not cool I'm new to fish so its really a learning experience. I'm using a 10w buyo red light the tank is 72l is this fine. Any fert u would suggest using?
     
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    Prof Dirk has the perfect ferts... or try Bio Elite's Ferts.

    10w is considered LOW light. Make sure your plant selection are low light plants. That reddish plant you have will not grow in that light.
     
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    just confirm before you go witch-hunting and burning plants...
     

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