help with tank dimensions and bracing

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  1. necris

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    Hi All
    I have recently been given a 3ft 165l tank
    6mm glass, 91x33x55, brace is around 53cm high, 50mmx6mm euro braces across the length front and back. how do the braces impact the below
    im not thrilled with the safety factor but am not entirely sure its taking the brabces into account.
    is this tank safe to use full?
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    Those calculators are for braceless tanks, as far as i know. Euro braces should help a lot in terms of safety factor.

    On the other hand, that height is an issue for that thickness of glass. I had a tank the same height and thickness of glass, and the centre brace popped loose on one side during outside leak testing - flood ensued.

    If there is no centre brace, i would add one, attaching to the front glass, back glass and both euro braces. It doesn't need to be super wide, 10cm should be ok
     
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    thats pretty much what i was thinking 100x330x6mm brace in the center top, will mess with lighting but i can work around that.
    worth bracing the bottom while im at it?
     
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    I'm not super knowledgeable about bottom bracing, but it won't hurt - a euro brace around the bottom will give the silicone that much more contact area
     
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    @necris ... while "your hands are dirty" do the little extra and be safer
    I am neurotic over bottom bracing after one if our tanks split a bottom seam about 4 years ago
    I would do the bottom and definitely the top do bracing on each side if there is none on the sides and bracing centre top
    It doesnt really affect the light that much
    I'm no expert but my 10cent based on 6mm glass
     
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    being the impulsive person i am i already bought the top centre brace(100mm wide 6mm)
    Decided after getting the centre to brace bottom(possibly even floating base) then realised i would need to properly measure for bottom braces as the sides are recessed and i didnt factor that in.
    Cutting 10cm off is one thing, cutting 10mm off cleanly, another story altogether.
    I tend to agree with you, will grab some more glass for the bottom tomorrow morning before i start, no rush, i'm still looking for the perfect table/bench for it to stand on anyway
     
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    Great, I think it's better
    All best
     
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    The dimensions look like a standard 3ft tank, that is higher than standard. Standard tank is 91 x 33 x 38, and made from 5mm glass.
    I don't know what the carrying capacity is of the standard Daro/Akwa stand, but your tank should fit in one of them.
    An extra 50kg should be manageable.
     
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    Well.
    . It's true... Builders warehouse sells glass... But krikey... You don't want to pay for it. R404 later I have bottom euro braces.
    Top centre installed
    Stage 1 leak test passed,it holds water

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    @necris

    Have you given those braces enough time to dry properly before filling?
    Glad its holding
     
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    The top euros were there already. I have only added the centre brace and waited 24hrs as per tube. Have done the bottom two now after drainigg drying and cleaning up. Will need to get a new piece of polystyrene on Monday and a proper stand before any more water goes near it. When I drained one corner was dry and the other under a cm of water.. The pad is wrecked

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    Bottom supports added. Not pretty but damn solid. Will leave that to cure for a day or two. Vinyl added to back and side
    Inside back has some stubborn stain. Will get in there with white vinegar once the siliconnis cured.
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    Looking good @necris

    I never trust the 24h on the tubes... maybe I'm just neurotic
    But give it 3 or 4 days to all dry up..
     
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    Agreed with @MariaS that more is less, particularly with tanks.
    More time = less problems in the future.
    Rather wait an additional 48 hours, and know you won't have any issues with tanks possibly leaking.
     
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    All good. No rush here. Fish are housed relatively happily. Rts being difficult but manageable. Got cycled media and a fully cycled, overfiltered tub of pool filter sand outside to keep my cycle short. Stand being picked up tomorrow and then probably sand perfectly flat and refinish. Still want to look at lighting options this week too. This is being entered into a scape contest locally for end of jan so not rushing things at all.

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    Stand sorted. When in doubt over engineer [​IMG]

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    Looking good! Silicone takes much longer to set than i expected - 48 hours plus is definitely recommended
     
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    yup, been sitting since sunday afternoon now. just moved to its stand
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