Help with 30gal stocking

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  1. Dazzo

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    Hey guys
    I'm new here and am about to start my first tank. I bought a 30 gal tank.
    I was thinking of putting in the following:
    1× Dwarf Gourami
    15× Neon Tetra
    5× Khuli Loach
    10× Cherry Shrimp
    2× Ramshorn Snail

    It sounds like a lot but as a newbie I'm not sure. Any advice would be appreciated or recommendations of similar but better fish. Thank you all.
     
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    Hallo and welcome to TASA!
    You can put in more than that in a 30 gallon long! Very exciting and congrats on your tank! 30 gallon is a good size!
    - what filtration are you looking at?
    - planted or not?
    - substrate?
    - what temp are you looking at, because cardinals would do better than neons at higher temps
    - 2 ramshorns will quickly multiply, they are very useful in a tank but just know that.
    - khulis are great. They’ll probably eat your baby cherry shrimp though.
    - sho I actually don’t know where to start, there are so many options for a peaceful community tank. Very exciting! You could always start with those (once tank is cycled) and then gradually add other things as you go along.
     
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    Hi. I know it's a technicality but it's a 29gal tank actually .
    I'm thinking of going with maybe a double sponge filter.
    I want to try planted but just some java fern and moss that don't need to be rooted in substrate
    I'm thinking just black gravel substrate to make the colours pop
    I'm thinking somewhere from 25 to 30°
    Maybe 1 Ramshorn is better then?
    If the Kuhlis are substituted for some Cory's would that be better for the shrimp?
     
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    Any advice would be great
     
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    Cories are really nice to have! And far as I know they don't eat things like shrimp or snails, but they might also go for baby shrimp as they are known to eat their own fry even
     
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    But if you get quite a few shrimp they'll probably reproduce much quicker than they can be eaten I'm sure
     
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    I was thinking that once the tank was running well and I had it under control I would try my hand at farming mealworms to add some meat to the diet. I can feed the baby worms to smaller fish or chop up adults.
     
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    That would be a fun project!
     
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    You’ll need a rather heavily planted tank to keep a shrimp colony with fish. Even neon tetra will eat baby shrimp if they’re out in the open. With enough cover (plants etc) your shrimp colony should survive and even thrive with something like cories. Khulis will most likely hunt baby shrimp way too effectively (but should leave adults alone).

    Other considerations when choosing fish:
    - Around 24-26C usually allows you to keep a good variety of species, but always do your research on the fish species.
    - Also check that the fish you’d like to keep have similar requirements ito pH etc.
    - temprament compatibly
    - mature size and swimroom needed
    - species for the bottom, midlevel end toplevel of the tank
    - what do you like the look of? Choose your showstopper fish and build a tank around it with suitable tankmates.
     
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    Thank you
    I had no idea that even the tetra would hunt baby shrimp so that's good to know as well
    I picked the dwarf gourami as my main attraction and built from there but I've got plenty of time before the tank is ready for fish to decide on the full stocking of the tank
    The help is much appreciated
     
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    Great! Remember to add your livestock gradually (once the tank is cycled) so that the beneficial bacteria can keep up and avoid ammonia spikes. The fish species you’ve listed and shrimp are all rather sensitive to ammonia and nitrites.

    Gouramis would appreciate cover from above eg floating plants like hornwort (easy).

    Consider getting 1 or 2 nerite snails- great cleanup crew and won’t breed in freshwater. Place them in carefully so that they don’t land on their backs in the tank.

    Easy epiphyte plants that don’t need substrate: java fern, bolbitis, anubias, java moss
    Easy stem plants that will grow in gravel or pool filter sand: ludwigia repens, giant baby tears
    Easy root feeders that will grow in gravel or pfs (you may need root tabs to help them settle in initially): amazon swords, crypts, vallisenaria
     
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    I would do rummy nose tetras with the neons. I find their behavior and colours more interesting.
     
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    How many kilos of gravel would it take to cover the bottom of my tank, being a 30gal long?
     
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    How thick do you want it. I ploughed 9kgs of gravel into a 15gal to cap worm castings. I venture a guess and say about that for 2.5cm in twice the volume

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    I'm out in Roodepoort and I was wondering if anyone knew the best place to shop for aquarium supplies out this way?

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    Hi @Dazzo
    Welcome to the forum
    Some excellent advice given so far
    What are the actual dimensions of the tank?
    How will you be cycling the tank?
    Seachem stability is a great product to use to promote good bacteria grow as you add your fish
     
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    The dimensions are
    91cm long
    32cm wide
    40cm high

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    Nice, and your stocking list sound fine too
    Obviously as has been said you will need hiding for the baby shrimp if you want them to survive
    All best and keep the updates and pictures coming!
     
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    Tank as is right now
    Just the gravel, filter and one Java fern that I've yet to take out of the pot and tie to a rock
    Tomorrow is another day with more plants and hardscape. Every LPS in my area is a total ripoff for driftwood. Is there anything that I can use as an alternative?[​IMG]

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    I have only used fallen oak tree branch in my tanks. The problem is cleaning them and finding a food piece for your tank.
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    My newest piece in is still soaking.
     
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