Fred the umbee

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    F26EDF8A-0347-476F-9AAC-C93A79D2F854.jpeg F26EDF8A-0347-476F-9AAC-C93A79D2F854.jpeg my umbee fred for some reason was calm enough for me to get a few pictures. Normally he goes mental when I am close enough too get pictures.
    Thanks

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    Wow @top dog ... He has grown!!

    He is stunning!!!

    Have you just got the one at the moment?
     
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    unfortunately just the one, paid heavy school fees with these guys and lost 2 along the way to getting fred to where he is.
    He is getting close to the biggest cichlid i have ever physically seen, easy 20cm deep 8cm wide and 40cm long now days.

    thankyou
     
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    I would imagine that it's prob best to have 1 only.
    Two males in a tank would be a disaster.
    And if a pair bred, you would struggle to find homes where people could care for the youngsters correctly.
     
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    agreed totally
    think a large adult pair would need 1500ltr plus tank just judging how unfriendly this guy is
    2 male i think would be impossible unless in a swimming pool
     
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    Sorry about the others.
    Never nice to lose fish but at least you have this one and you have done an awesome job with it
    Stunning
    But I guess as Reedfish said, sometimes with a fish like this you better of with one stunning pet
     
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    Unfortunately first one was destroyed by another male, while at the shop and thought I could pull him threw, was a very painful and disappointing experience.
    Second went threw a 4mm glass slider trying to get a moth
    So Fred been treated with wool
    12 years of begging to get them definitely worth it now but came close to quiting after I lost second one
     
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    That must have been heart breaking but Fred is sure making up for it!

    Must say Im amazed... we always think Aros break through sliders and although cichlids can be aggressive eaters you don't think they would break the sliders.... Guess we learn every day
     
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    had a few do it to 3mm glass especially always been at home when it happened and normally due to insects flying around the lights
    think large predatory open water fish are all capable of flying out of tanks at incredible speed unfortunately
    best thing i learnt on youtube from joey diy was using polycarb clear irb sheets on top of tanks. light enough for fish not to hurt themselves but strong enough to keep them in the tanks.
     
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    My Chocolate Cichlids used to pick the algae off the glass sliders. They hit the glass with quite a force. Was often concerned they would go right through. Scraped as much of the algae off as possible, but was amazing how quickly it grew back. Well I guess water + a lot of light = fast growth.
     
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    We have also been using the clear polycarb sheets since back when Dragon flew through 10mm sliders and there was glass all over the inside of the tank

    Im very happy with them and they much easier for me to handle in the big tanks. 10/12mm sliders are a bummer to move on a 1m and 1.2m wide or at least I battle to move them
     
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    can imagine trying to move 10mm must have been nightmare.
    more scary that the dragon broke it.
    i have 8mm glass on tank at workshop and i hate them
     

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