Fish Meds + Wife emo meter rocket high!

Folks.

This is turning out to be a nightmare, again went to some LFS today to get some meds
for the little guppies my wife likes. We are losing one everyday "including 2 molly" that seems
to be sinking.
I have been reading that Bloodworms causes the fishes constipation issue.
the product are as follows

Tetra aquasafe
Seachem metronidazole

now which do I start using? and direction?
I am not sure if they are constipated or not but losing one a day is not great and not
great on the wifes emo meter too.
she just wont accept the instuctions on the lable and keeps me on my toes...

My argument is that the aqua safe is to be added into the water that she wants to change, if the water change is 30L just add 15ml of aquasafe.
if greater then 50L then add only 25ml.
is my argument wrong? as I looked it up on google.

and lastly
Seachem Metronidazole.... such a large bottle but product inside seems to be 1/3 is this correct?
1 spoon for every 20L water?

Thanks

 

@BBQ

whats the size of the tank?
how long has the tank been up and running?
how many fish are in the tank?
how often do you do a WC? and how much?

sounds like your water might be the thing to look at, as the bloodworms should be fine, most of us feed our fish this, and if they are constipated give them some BS.

The more we know about your tank, the better answer we will be able to provide

 

Sorry to hear about your fish
But how is your ammonia levels
Is your temp right
What is the PH
When last did you do a water change before you started to treat the tank ?
How old is your tank ?
Why are you using this medication ?

 

@Vez sim posting lol

 

I agree with Vez. But since you mentioned the bloodworms, is it the frozen type, and if it is, did you thaw it before feeding?

BTW, how does one diagnose constipation?

 

@Vez
1. 60L, 40L, 40L but main guppies are in 60L that we losing so i will refer to the 60L
2. The tank is 1 year old but (dont be angry) lost all the fish when on holiday in August, the helper didnt know how to feed after I tought her.
the current batch is from November.
3. currently looking for a larger tank, i have 20 in the tank i think. with the new addition today. 2x albeno plecs
4. WC is about 5 days normally but 3 weeks ago it was up to like 2-3 days due to water cloudyness.
the change sometimes 15L at a time most we did was 20L

@Corne

The ammonia lvl not sure.
Temp is @ 30-31
PH is at 7.6
This medication was suggested by one guy by the stall, not sure if can mention but they are an sponser anyway.
something to do with gills puffing up

 

Don't treat anything unless you are 100% sure what you are treating for.

If you feel you have to treat something maybe go with some aquarium salt for now.

Also never mix meds unless you know its safe.

Its also very important you know the parameters the other guys talked about.

By the sound of things you and your tank might be new so cycling might be your problem.

You also need to add a dechlor product like aquasafe if you have not done so before. The dosage is usually about 5ml to 20l water but it should be very clear on the bottle.

 

I feed BS and BW both are frozen, do have BBS live ones but its not for them, its for the other 2x 40L tanks with frys in it.
I also use normal flakes to keep the guppies on top of the water while my fake upside down catfish(was sold to me as a real one, so they say)
and Black ghost knife i got last week could come out and eat.
Also a reason I want a new tank just for myself cos of the black ghost knife - at least 1000mm or 1200mm tank..

 

Ok your temp is too high, slowly reduce it to 25-26C

Flaring gills can be a response to amonia poisining.

Do you clean your filters when you do water changes?

Are you sure their is'nt a dead fish stuck somewhere?

Metro is mainly used fir internal parasites and this you would be able to detect if you look at their poop.

I think you have a slight parameter problem coupled with the high temp leaves extremely low oxygen levels in the water.

Increase water surface agitation and lower your temp for now and do a water chane about 20L should be fine and make sure you add dechlor.

 

The product were suggested by Didi at Pet Stop (remove this if in breach)
As I told him what the problem was but my problem is not that, its my wife not wanting
to look at the instuctions...
I am not mixing the meds just dont know which meds to use first.
my water has been standing for at least a week+ outside in 2 massive buckets in direct sunlight.
and what would you suggest for the Ammonia?

 

Water change is your best counter against ammonia or zeolite. Best product to get would be something like Seachem Prime.

Not sure what you told Didi but from your description above of the problem I am not sure how he came to that conclusion.

Keep it simple for now and get new water in your tank and increase the oxygen.

 

I will use the aircon in that section then or quickest way that was suggested is to add ice bottle to it.
Filter gets washed yes, its an elite 15 filter with 2 little cartages.
nope no dead fish stuck cos I see all the fish, and remove the dead guppy right away.
We spend alot of time in front of the tank so we see which fish is not swimming ok or about to die.
I got airstones and use the airpump that I hatch my BBS with and attached it and dumped it in.

 

Maybe back to the 2-3 day water change part?

 

So, is gills flaring and if they are, who's gills.... ? ;-)

 

Cloudy water, ammonia spike etc sounds like the tank is cycling again. Go to Pet Stop and ask them for some Microbe Lift Special Blend.

 

Hi BBQ don't add any ice or rapidly cool your tanks down. Turn your heater down and let the tank cool naturally.

Please note that you should not clean your filters with every water change. This might just be your problem.

Every 3 months or so just quickly rinse the filter media in the tank water you took out. Do not clean them completely or under tap water.

You are putting your tank back into a cycle each time you clean the filters.

 

Also forgot to mention is that my molly/platy not sure what the heck, but the mickymouse stuff....
are sinking to the bottom.. without much movement but alive

 

Henk I should get some of your stuff so I can recommend it as I always forget about it.

Maybe for the new tank

Anyway BBQ do a water change with the same temp water and get the Special Blend stuff.

 

Hi @BBQ. Lower your temp to 28C gradually, to hot for your Guppy's even though they are quite hardy fish. Don't add anymore fish until you resolved this issue! Get yourself an Ammonia Test Kit. Besides bad water conditions, Ammonia is the No1 killer of fish!! Use Tetra AquaSafe as directed to dechlorinate your water, use aged water, you can also try Tetra AquaTan, its AquaSafe and BlackWater extract in one, works wonders for my Betta's, does tint the water a slight brown colour but your carbon filters will clear it up in a couple of days. If all else fails, get some Ammonia Removing Stones from your LFS, put in a small bag or panty house and put in your tank, do a 50% water change (if Ammonia is your problem). Gills puffing up is possibly a bacterial infection of some kind (can also be from Ammonia poisoning), remove charcoal filters, leave an air stone in and a sponge filter, treat tank with BactoPur as directed. But make sure first what is wrong with your fish before you use any meds, watch them, make notes, post clear close-up pics. You can also ask Prof Dirk Bellstedt (hope I spelled his name correct). Hope this helps. Good Luck.

 

Although not the problem here, remember to thaw first before feeding. Frozen food cause swim bladder problems. I lost fish in the beginning and then learned here on the forum to thaw first. End of my problems. I thaw it in a glass of tank water, strain it when thawed through a tea sieve and then rinse it in the sieve with more tank water. Not in the tank! Only then I feed the fish.