Fish getting smaller and losing colour

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  1. PSZN

    PSZN

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    Morning all

    I tried searching on the site but cant find anything, sorry if i have duplicated.

    The problem started with my neons, then on to my danios and lastly my x ray tetras.

    I only lose one fish at a time, they start to shrink, then lose colour untill eventually they are just skin and bone.


    My temperature is right and i hace checked the ph etc, any help with this will be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. johan008

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    Have you added new fish lately and are these fish eating ? Update your profile so we can see where you are from and give us a run through of your setup.
     
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    Here is a few Q's so we can get assist you better, just copy and type next to Q's HTH

    General

    Where do you stay?
    How long have you been keeping tropical fishes?
    How long has the tank been running before you added fish/this fish?
    What fish do you have in your Tank (type, number and size)?
    When did you last buy any new fish?
    Which food are you feeding and how often do you feed?


    Disease
    Describe the problem that the fish is having (behaviour, breathing, excretion (droppings), food intake, colour)?
    Is the fish eating?
    Has the problem occurred before?:
    Have you treated the problem and how?
    Have you had any other problems in the past?
    What were they?
    Did you treat for these problems?
    How?

    Your aquarium & Maintenance
    How big is the tank. (L x b x h)?
    How many litres of water?
    What type of filter do you run?
    What is IN the filter?
    How many litres per hour is the filter rated for?
    How often do you clean your tank?
    How do you clean your tank?
    How much water do you take out for Water change?
    Do you prepare your water for water changes? How and what do you add?
    What water do you use. (Tap, bore hole, RO)?
    What substrate do you have?
    What else is in the tank (Rocks, plants, fake plants, shells, anything else)?

    Water parameters in your aquarium
    Describe the water (smell and colour)?
    Temperature of the water?
    General hardness (GH)?
    Carbonate hardness (KH)?
    Ammonia:
    Nitrite (No2-)?
    Nitrate (No3-)?
    pH?
    How did you test these? Have you checked the expiry date on the test kits?

    Lights
    What light do you have?
    How long is the light on for?
    Do you have lots of plants in the tank (real or fake)?
    How do you fertilize the plants?

    If possible, can you post some pictures of
    (1) The sick fish
    (2) A close up of the sick fish, and/or effected area
    (3) the full tank.
     
  5. MarcVanJ

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    What are you feeding them, how often and are the fish that you are loosing eating when you feed?
     
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    PSZN

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    General
    Where do you stay? DURBAN (KLOOF)
    How long have you been keeping tropical fishes? +- 8 MONTHS
    How long has the tank been running before you added fish/this fish? I GOT THE TANK AS IS, NO NEW FISH
    What fish do you have in your Tank (type, number and size)?2 X BRONZE CORY, 1 X ALGAE EATER 3 X NEONS 6 GLOWLIGHT TETRAS 4 BLACK PHANTOM TETRAS 4 X PRISTILLA X RAY TETRAS 4 X BLUSHING DANIOS 1X PINK DANIOS
    When did you last buy any new fish? N/A
    Which food are you feeding and how often do you feed? TWICE A DAY, SIX DAYS A WEEK, FISH FLAKES AND SMALL FLOATING BALLS FOR THE DANIOS


    Disease
    Describe the problem that the fish is having (behaviour, breathing, excretion (droppings), food intake, colour)? THE FISH STARTS RETRACTING FROM THE ORTHERS AND STAYS AT THE TOP IN A CORNER, AND LOSES COLOUR DAILY. I REMOVE THE FISH FROM THE TANK AND PLACE IN A QUARINTINE TANK WHERE IT LASTS FOR 2 OR 3 DAYS.
    Is the fish eating? VERY LITTLE, IT DOES TRY, BUT GIVES UP AND GOES BACK TO ITS CORNER.
    Has the problem occurred before?: YES, WITH THE DANIOS
    Have you treated the problem and how? CANT FIND ANY HELP
    Have you had any other problems in the past? YES ICH, BUT SUCCESSFULLY TREATED,
    What were they? ICH
    Did you treat for these problems? YES
    How? ICH MEDICINE FROM LFS

    Your aquarium & Maintenance
    How big is the tank. (L x b x h)? ITS A JUWEL TANK, AT WORK NOW.
    How many litres of water? APPROX 50 TO 60LT
    What type of filter do you run? IT CAME WITH A BUILT IN POWER HEAD AND FILTER TRAY AT THE TOP
    What is IN the filter? WHEN I GOT THE TANK , I LEFT THE OLD SPONGE FILTER IN THERE AND BOUGHT THE MEDIA KIT USED IN THE AQUACLEAR HOB FILTERS AND PLACED IT IN THERE.
    How many litres per hour is the filter rated for? 200L/H
    How often do you clean your tank? FIRST WEEK +- 20% SECOND WEEK 50 % AND THE NEXT WEEK 20% AND SO ON
    How do you clean your tank? WITH THOSE SIPHON PIPES
    How much water do you take out for Water change?
    Do you prepare your water for water changes? How and what do you add? SINCE JOINING THIS SITE I NOW HAVE A DRUM OF WATER IN MY GARAGE, WITH A HEATER AND AIRSTONE IN IT, WHICH I LEAVE FOR 2 TO 3 DAYS WITH ANTICHLOR
    What water do you use. (Tap, bore hole, RO)?TAP
    What substrate do you have?NORMAL WHITE GRAVEL
    What else is in the tank (Rocks, plants, fake plants, shells, anything else)? THERE ARE 2 REAL PLANTS.

    Water parameters in your aquarium
    Describe the water (smell and colour)? TANK IS CLEAR, I HAVENT PICKED UP A SMELL
    Temperature of the water? WATER IS SET AT 24, BUT IT DOES GO UP DURING THE DAY
    General hardness (GH)?
    Carbonate hardness (KH)?
    Ammonia:
    Nitrite (No2-)?
    Nitrate (No3-)?
    pH?
    How did you test these? Have you checked the expiry date on the test kits? I USE THOSE TETRA STRIPS, AND SO FAR ALL MY TESTS HAVE BEEN IN THE RECOMENDED AREA

    Lights
    What light do you have? THE STANDARD TWO SPIRAL WHITE LIGHTS THAT CAME WITH IT
    How long is the light on for?nO LIGHT IN THE DAY, I PUT IT ON FROM 16 30 T0 20 00
    Do you have lots of plants in the tank (real or fake)?2 REAL
    How do you fertilize the plants?HAVENT GOT THAT FAR YET

    If possible, can you post some pictures of
    (1) The sick fish
    (2) A close up of the sick fish, and/or effected area
    (3) the full tank. WILL TRY THIS WEEKEND.
    MY 3FT TANK IS ALMOST FINISHED CYCLING, AND I REALLY DONT WANT TO TRANSFER THIS DISEASE OR SICKNESS TO MY NEW TANK.
    THANKS IN ADVANCE
     
  7. Ryno

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    sounds like internal parasites. maybe worms
     
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    PSZN

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    is there any medication i can get
     
  9. Neels

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    @PSZN For internal parasites you can use Metronidazole. The thing with internal parasites is that your fish will feed as normal, but they will have stringy white faeces.

    You may want to look at this:
    Fish Tuberculosis

    It may very well be fish tb. I would not move any of the fish in the juwel to the new tank until you are sure what disease your fish have and you have been able to get it under control.
     
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  10. Jenn

    Jenn Retired Moderator

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    When they do that staring in the corner it's a bad sign. I would agree with Ryno, possibly parasites & with Neels & metronidazole, especially if you've noticed white, stringy faeces. My angels had the same symptoms & it was sorted out with a course of metro.

    I was given this advice by Dirk:

    You could also consider adding a bigger variety to their diet to be sure they are getting all the nutrients they need to improve their immunity, e.g., frozen/live brine shrimp, bloodworm, etc; peas (helps with constipation). Try to feed the best quality food you can find.
     

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