Can this work ?

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  1. Reaper

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    i heard something today but dont know if its true or not selling this story for the same price i got it .... they say you can use a green deacon to fertilize parrot fish eggs what is the view of the people in the know ?
     
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    SHiBBY DIY Guru

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    I'll just scoot my green deacon over to you and you can fertilize deacon eggs, howzat? ;-)

    Not sure, we'll need one of the gurus...
     
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    Male Parrot fish are usually sterile(99%) but with hormone treatment they can produce non sterile males. So the female is not sterile so i cant see why certain cichlids can not fertilize the eggs. Parrots are crossbreds themselves.

    ps; im not the Guru you are looking for so i can be corrected.
     
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  5. Slojo

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    This is what I found.
    The blood parrot cichlid is a man-made hybrid. The exact origins of the fish are unclear but it appears to be a cross between a South American cichlid, likely the severum (Heros severus) and a Central American cichlid, likely the midas cichlid (Amphilophus citrinellus) or the red devil (Amphilophus labiatus).

    If you were thinking about getting a blood parrot cichlid, but have not yet, I strongly urge you to consider getting a real cichlid instead. For example, try something like the convict cichlid or shell dwellers if you have a small tank, or the midas cichlid if you have a 70 gallon tank or larger. Or any of the rift lake cichlids, or how about pike cichlids? Apistogrammas are intriguing. The cichlids from Madagascar are becoming more available. Some of the West African river cichlids are unbeatable for fascinating behavior..... so many cichlids, so little time.
     
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    Reaper

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    im not into parrots as such it was just something interesting i heard today
    ps: hehehe i've got 2 parots a conure and a senegal parrot its enough parrots for me
     
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    azurekoi Loaches & Gobies

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    Once was lucky enough to be shown the "parents" of Parrots when I visited a breeder in Taiwan...

    Cant quite remember wich went with wich(Was distracted by a female Freshwate Stingray giving birth...) - but the parents of his parrots where created by Crossing a Super Red Deacon,Texas,Red devil and a C.synspilium... The babies of these individual pairs where then crossed with the babies of the other pair to create Parrots...Here again,it is not that plain and simple...Only about 15 - 20% of the babies came out as "Proper" Parrots - rest reverted to the Texas/Synspilium colouration - see they market them today as Kirin Parrots

    As for all Parrots being invertile... Not true - had a pair who regularly bred and raised fry in a shop I worked in years ago(but this is rare) - Most of the babies (like 95%) didnt resemble the Blood Parrot parents though...
     
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    well I have seen parrot bred with texan and the results where similar to synspillium and festae,NO parrots though
     
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    azurekoi Loaches & Gobies

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    @fishcrazy - like I said... VERY small percentage of the spawn turn out to be "true" Parrots - bit like breeding a good koi... If 0.5% of the koi spawn even looks like its parents - you are doing something right...

    Parrots are created by line breeding for a desired result - not what nature intends at ALL... Taking a parrot and recrossing it with a "true" cichlid is just gonna bury the recessive gene that creates them even further....
     
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    My cousin has a texas chiclid male with a parrot female, they spawn constantly.
     
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    That is not impossible as the Texas Cichlid (which is on the BL) is a very promiscuous fish. Will breed with almost anything. I wonder if that is not one of the main reasons why it's Black Listed in S.A.

    Lappies
     
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    It is impossible for fish or any other animal to breed across species ie elephant and rhino or in the case Texas Chillid and say our local talapia. If we had any local cichlids then it might have been possible.
     
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    Sounds like a misnomer in that case. Should've been named the Gauteng cichlid.
     
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    I meant other cichlids thats round about it's own size Larch. It's impossible for an animal to breed outside it's own family. That will be the birth of a total abomination of species.

    Let me rephrase so that everybody understands.

    A Texas cichlid will breed with almost any Cichlid that is the same size as itself.

    Lappies
     
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    Must have been a misunderstanding I was referring to your statement that it might be one of the reasons it is blacklisted. We all know they use a dart board to decide what is blacklisted or not ;)
     
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    very interesting so if you have a female parrot its posible to use a male Cichlid to fertilize the eggs hehehehe and there stupid me thought this oke was making "gat" of me
     

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