Any idea what these "tuxedo fish" are?

Discussion in 'ID Needed' started by dungbeetlemania, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. dungbeetlemania

    dungbeetlemania

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2009
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fairland, Jhb
    Hi all

    I bought these a while back, they were sold as tuxedo fish but I have not been able to find anything about them online. When I bought them they both were quite pale with the black markings on the tail half of the body, and also over the head. As they have grown one has lost all it's dark markings, and turned far more orangey, while the other has lost the black from it's head. Both seem healthy, they even look like they *might* be doing courtship swims around each other (perhaps one is male and the other female, hence the colour differences?)

    As you can see they have sucker mouths, much like a pleco, and they keep the glass wonderfully clean. They do strip some leaves though, and kill them. They are very active and fun to watch. They're approximately 6-7cm in length.

    Sorry for the low quality of some of the pics, but I thought it better to include more to increase the chance that someone can ID them. Please ignore the rather obvious glass streaks in the one pic, I promise the tank looks cleaner than that when not illuminated by the flash! Some cleaning to do in the morning though...

    mystery 1.jpg

    mystery 2.jpg

    mystery 3.jpg

    mystery 5.jpg

    mystery 6.jpg
     
  2. Guest




  3. Bufamotis

    Bufamotis

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,852
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    Pretoria East
    Kinda look just like these, dont they?
    [​IMG]
    I was by Petstop the other day and was thinkin "what the frig are those?" myself, so i picced them for an id, and forgot about the pics till now, ...

    The attendant just said they're algea eaters... didn't know the name either:([​IMG]

    Photo001.jpg

    Photo002.jpg
     
  4. OP
    dungbeetlemania

    dungbeetlemania

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2009
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fairland, Jhb
    Yeah, they really do look like they could be the same. I like them, I must say, they get on well with the other fish, although they chase each other a little. Not too aggressively I would say, so if you're keen I might recommend them.
     
  5. Bufamotis

    Bufamotis

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,852
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    Pretoria East
    lol, i know they chase each other, thats why in the first pic they all look like they are fleeing cept for one suckin on the glass, left side... :D

    you'll notice the second pic's focus is on the only stationary fella who's in the adjoining tank, they were quite fast, but nice and lively, how well do they do cleanup?
     
  6. OP
    dungbeetlemania

    dungbeetlemania

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2009
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fairland, Jhb
    I have one pleco which eats mostly cucumber and algae flakes, and these two which we've named kreepy and krawley because they are constantly on the glass. Maybe I am just lucky, but I never have to clean the glass, so I suspect they do it very well!
     
  7. Henk Hugo

    Henk Hugo

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2008
    Messages:
    4,135
    Likes Received:
    34
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Chinese algea eaters - get rid of ASAP
     
  8. Slojo

    Slojo

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    2,115
    Likes Received:
    24
    Please tell us why?
     
  9. Gareth

    Gareth Angel Freak

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2009
    Messages:
    2,339
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    Potchefstroom
    it is probably on the blacklist
     
  10. Henk Hugo

    Henk Hugo

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2008
    Messages:
    4,135
    Likes Received:
    34
    Location:
    Cape Town
    CAEs are extremel agro as adults, they also suck onto other fish and take off the protective slime coating as well as scales in extreme cases. REALLY a fish to avoid

    from various sources

     
  11. Gilbertr14

    Gilbertr14 Phenacogrammus

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    746
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Kraaifontein, Cape Town

    Chinese Algae Eaters

    Aren't Chinese and dot eat Algae
     
  12. Gareth

    Gareth Angel Freak

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2009
    Messages:
    2,339
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    Potchefstroom
    I always wonder why the LFS here keep them in ther own tanks when they are slightly bigger.
    thank Henk
    I now know to stay away from then because I was going to add them into my community tank
     
  13. Gilbertr14

    Gilbertr14 Phenacogrammus

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    746
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Kraaifontein, Cape Town
    Mine grew from 3 to about 12cm in 6 months.
     
  14. Asgar

    Asgar

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    196
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Durban
    Thats a Chinese Algea Eater for sure.
     
  15. Bufamotis

    Bufamotis

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,852
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    Pretoria East
    ahhh. So THESE are the ones i read i should avoid, havent seen a pic of them before now
     
  16. Zafgak

    Zafgak Old fart

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    1,236
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Yep - they enjoy sucking on Discus and Angels as well as others
     
  17. slayer

    slayer

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Messages:
    865
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Gauteng, Edenvale
    I had 1 about a year ago. Was kept with tetras and live bearers. It used to chase other fish. It sucks on other fish and eats dead fish.
     
  18. Gilbertr14

    Gilbertr14 Phenacogrammus

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    746
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Kraaifontein, Cape Town
    I wonder if Oscars eat them?

    Sauron, you want a batch :)
     
  19. OP
    dungbeetlemania

    dungbeetlemania

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2009
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fairland, Jhb
    Thanks for all the help

    Having read all the replies in this and my other posts, as a newbie to this forum, I have 3 things to say:

    :rolleyes: 1) Thanks for all the positive responses, there was no "you idiot!" or "why don't you take care!" or anything, which seemed prevalent on the previous forum. I stopped being very active there, perhaps others did for the same reason, and that's why it is dead.

    :amazed: 2) You've answered my query well. I am not happy about these little blighters because I actually rather like them at the moment. They are fun to watch and so far haven't caused any trouble. Thanks for IDing though - I don't suppose anyone would like to take them off my hands?

    :mad: 3) Pet shops piss me off. They were very clearly labelled "Tuxedo Fish", which google searches have convinced me is something they simply made up. I suppose I could have asked but, being new to the hobby I figured the shop would be honest and sell things the average hobbiest could keep easily. Of course, I have since learned that they just want to push as much live product out the door as they possibly can. I reckon they expect, indeed RELY on, a significant portion of the fish they sell dying so that the customer comes back for more but never realises s/he's been had.

    I will be sad to see them go, but as far as I can tell, go they must.
     
  20. Zafgak

    Zafgak Old fart

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    1,236
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Cape Town
    It is a pleasure - As seen on many threads - there is no such thing as a stupid question - we all started somewhere, and still make mistakes to this day...

    BTW - Agree totally on the LFS
     
  21. Bufamotis

    Bufamotis

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,852
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    Pretoria East
    awesometastic dude, glad you like it here.

    Sorry to hear the fishies must go, alternative is get a tiny tank just for them, and then you can keep them, and enjoy their antics, embrace MTS, even if just a little:)
     

Recent Posts

Loading...
Similar Threads - idea tuxedo fish Forum Date
Starting an LFS *Ideas General Fish Discussions Sep 17, 2024
Ideas on what to breed in this 80L fish tank Breeding Oct 5, 2021
German blue ram tank mate ideas? Beginner Discussions May 17, 2021
Tank plans/ideas General Discussions Feb 7, 2021
Any ideas?... New here Advanced Topics Dec 23, 2020
My tanks and ideas Planted Tanks Dec 20, 2020
New Tank ideas General Discussions Dec 9, 2020

Share This Page