6 Fish to ID *please help*

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  1. JohanSnyman

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    20190809_224135.jpg unknown.jpg Hi Guys
    Just bought a 700L freshwater tank with 6 fish, but need help identifying my fish.
    I suspect one to be a ''Iredecent Shark'', one of them might be some type of ''parrot fish'', and maybe a ''Bala'' or two, but not sure, please if anybody can help me properly identify them, Then I can look after them better according to there needs. see attached pictures.
    Thank you in advance.
    Johanalgea eater.jpg bala 2.jpg Bala shark.png iredecent shark.png parrot.jpg
     
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    I can help with some of them but unfortunately not all.

    In the second picture below the tank that looks like a sliver doller
    The 3rd picture is a red tail catfish
    The 4th picture looks like a tin foil barb
    The 5th picture sorry can't help there
    The 6th one could be a pangasius hi fin shark
    And the 7th one does look like a parrot fish

    Just please be aware some of these fish can grow absolutely massive

    Hope this at least helps a little other members will chime in soon too.
     
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    5th looks like a cigar shark.
     
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    7th looks like a red devil cichlid.
     
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    Have to agree with tge id's given so far. As said before some of these fish, red tail cat and pangasian, growes big. Yes they will outgrow your 700L in no time as they reach sizes bigger than 1 meter. Imo they should be on the black list due to their adult size. They will also start enjoying your other fish as tasty snacks as they grow.

    Best would be to take them to your lfs or get somebody that has a pond big enough for them.

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    Good point, didn't think of them but I think you're right :thumbup:
     
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    H i @JohanSnyman ,

    Welcome to the Forum

    I agree with the ID given on the fish
    Unfortunately I also agree with @pierreschoonraad ...

    I see its your first post and maybe the answers we giving you are not what you wanted to hear... dont be offended... we mean well..

    Seeing as you asked for id on all the fish, it makes me think you didnt read up much on them before hand and obviously the LFS didnt tell you either

    Do yourself favor and take the ReD Tail Catfish and the Pangassius back to the LFS... change them for something else
    They grow huge and will start eating all your other fish

    I must admit, i think the 7th looks more like red devil or one of those... To the best of my knowledge they get fairl aggressive as they get older
     
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    I'm guessing that the fish came with the tank.
    The shark and the red tail will need a bigger tank, most likely a pond as they get huge. Maybe see if anyone nearby would be able to house them.
     
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    Thank you for all the Reply's guys, I really appreciate it a lot.
    Yes I bought the setup from my boss, and he had this setup for almost a year, reason for selling was that the Hi-fin shark ate all the other fish in the tank even fish up to 12cm+, Those 6 was the only that survived.
    I was thinking of putting a devider in the tank to keep smaller fish aswell, as I do not want to get rid of the Hi-Fin just yet.
    I will when the time is right, what do you guys think?
    opinions will be highly appreciated.
    Mind my English please, as I am actually Afrikaans speaking.
    thank you Johan
     
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    @JohanSnyman

    Nothing wrong with your English, you would laugh at me writing Afrikaans!
    Johan... I guess the final decision is yours but.. I have to be honest... no... it's not a good idea...
    The tank is... 1.5m?
    Dividing that is way.. way..too small for those fish
    I know it's not easy.. but rather let those fish go.
    The longer you keep them the harder it is to do it and you will end up with heartache at losing fish
    Also think of their needs and well being and let them go to bigger homes
     
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    I have to agree with @MariaS on this. Most of the fish in there are preditors. The cigar shark needs the full lenght for swimming and he will just get damaged by the devider.

    Best will be to deside now what your plan is, with this tank, in the long run. Unfortunately this will not include the red tail or pangasian. Work from there and start building it up from there.


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    Hi Guys
    hope you are all doing well tonight, Thank you for all the opinions.
    @MariaS My tank is (1800 x 600 x 600)
    My boss does have a pond on his farm, So I can always release the ''Hi-Fin'' and ''Red tail catfish'' in the soon future if I want to, and if that environment would be save for them. They seem to all get along well, just sometimes when he feels like it the ''Red devil Cichled'' comes out of his hiding spot and chases the ''Hi-Fin'' around in the tank for a while.
    How do I determine how much food is enough to feed them at a time?. I have 3 different size flakes & pellets, and I think I might be over feeding them, cause there seems to be food still floating around after 10-15min. one more question guys
    witch of these fish do you think would be compatible with small fish? meaning would not eat them, like the ''Hi-Fin'' does.
    witch of these fish do you guy recommend keeping in my setup for the future?
    Thank you so much guys, really appreciate your efforts.
    Johan
     
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    @JohanSnyman ,

    That is a nice size tank and the options of making it look stunning with the right choice of fish are endless

    The release of the hifin and RTC into your boss's pond ... their survival if the pond is not heated would depend on water temps in winter where he lives
    Also keep in mind that depending on stock levels, they will start eating the other fish and making a big impact on the natural environment

    Feeding : Feed less at a time, in other words throw a little bit food and if its all gone throw a little more
    As soon as you see they not really eating eagerly stop feeding

    The tin foil and cigar shark also get fairly big but are not usually problem fish although the cigar shark can get pretty cheeky once they reach a certain size
    To keep the red devil you would have to stick to a cichlid tank with species that can stand up to him
     
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    Personally if it was my tank I would get rid of everything in there and start fresh. keep fish you will enjoy the most.

    The tank is approximately 650 litres unless it has sump filtration in which case its more, as @MariaS said stocking ideas are plentiful.

    Few options are

    Large Community tank with barbs, tetras, gourami's, angel fish etc (please check compatibility before adding)

    Lake Malawi tank adding mixed fish from Lake Malawi

    South American Cichlid tank with mixed South American Cichlids

    There are plenty more options just a few ultimately its your tank now and you should be happy no matter what route you choose

    (this is just my opinion so hope it doesn't come across in the wrong way)
     
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