3ft Hillstream

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  1. Razer2007

    Razer2007 Danelle Vivier

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    So here I am at last.

    I got a new 3ft tank in addition to my new 4ft, to set up as a river/hillstream tank. I'll be housing, obviously, Hillstream loaches and eventually Stiphodon gobies, if I can find some. I'd also like some interesting other fish like rare loaches. Haven't decided on other inhabitants. My 4 Hillstreams are currently held at Fish.etc.

    Tank: std 3ft, braced
    Substrate: PFS
    Light: 2X 39W T5's
    CO2: none
    Decor: Awesome branch and rocks
    Filtration: 2X 1200lph powerheads connected to 2X sponges on the other side via a manifold. Pics to follow.

    I guess the powerheads I bought is a bit el cheapo: R129 for one 1200lph unit.
    The lights will be on for a long time to grow a lot of algae. I will only plant Java fern and Anubias, because they can handle strong flow. If you know of any other plants that might work, please post here.

    The manifold center pipe is bent from being rolled up. I'll make sure it's straight and everything is lined up when I do the "scaping". I'll just use a big rock to hold it down.



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  3. Ryno

    Ryno Kenaal baber

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    Bolbitis (african water fern if you can get hold of it is a great pleant for sa flow tank
     
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    @Razer2007, Very neat setup. I am not too familiar with hillstream setups. Those powerheads should pack a punch. I am just wondering. Will a sprayer bar setup not give more spread out flow? Or doesn't it matter on the setup? Will follow this thread.
     
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    The idea of a hillstream tank is to get a lot of flow to mimic the fishes natural environment.

    BTW, great looking so far. Getting keen to try one for myself.
     
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    Razer2007 Danelle Vivier

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    I'll definitely get some Bolbitis if I can get my hands on some.
    Thanks. I actually have no idea on the spraybar. I'll see how it goes.
     
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    Razer2007 Danelle Vivier

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    Thanks @Firefly. Seems to become a bit more popular now.
     
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    Good_Times Kalahari Sandhaai

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    Oooh I really like this setup, will be watching this one.

    You could maybe try sticking sucker cups on the bottem an then cable-tie them to the pipe to hold it in place, or use some of the hard stiff white pvc tubes.
     
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    I like it a lot Just a spot of bother those PVC pipes looks good now but it wil age and build up algeaCant you replace the non exposed parts with black pipe ?Or are you planning on hiding all the pipes ?But heck i like the setup
     
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    Razer2007 Danelle Vivier

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    Thanks. I made it straight by using boiling water and pouting it inside the pipe. The held and pulled it so that it stayed straight.

    Thanks. All the pipes except where they come out will be hidden. I changed the part where it goes out to the powerheads. There's no see-through parts visible.

    An update is coming tonight with the set-up and filled tank.
     
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    Razer2007 Danelle Vivier

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    OK I changed the manifold to two separate pieces, so that there's 2 channels underneath the sand.

    I set up the tank and "scape". Some nice rocks and a cool branch I got a few months ago - which I also posted in my old planted thread. The only plants I have now is some moss (not sure what kind) and 3 Java fern rhizomes. Their leaves are cut off so you don't really see them.

    The light is obvoiusly temporary - I will wire and make the canopy for the 2X 39W T5's tomorrow.

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    And then I got and addition. Not sure what you call it - think it's a wavemaker - 3000lph. In total I now have 5400lph - Which is a HUGE trunover. I will see how it goes when I add the fish. I might remove the new thing. These fish are gonna have to swim strong. I tilted it up so that it creates a lot of surface movement for more oxygen.

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    I'm not sure whether I should make one powerhead blow bubbles, or if the surface movement will suffice. Comments?

    What other fish could you recommend for a system like this?
     
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    Hi @Razer2007, I think the surface movement will be efficient for oxygen with this setup. For some reason I can't see your images. Probably my phone. So I can't really comment on the setup... I'm sure it looks great from what you described.
     
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    @Razer2007 Wow! That looks great. i really like the setup..

    As for oxygen levels, i am 100 % sure that just having the 2 powerheads will be enough surface movement for this tank.

    Cant wait to see this tank fully setup with fish, and plants.

    Could you please tell me where you will be getting all your fish from?

    Thanks
     
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    One Q dont you have a straight output head for your powerheads ?Seems like a waste of energy having the powerheads flowing the lenght of the tank and defuse on the side of the glas (talking about the powerheads L or T outlet)?I am getting a strong MTS on this one ,why dont you ask Shawn he has the same seup and has some gobies His tread is called a river runs trough it ,I am sure you can get a few tips from hiim ?Forgive grammar and spelling lol
     
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    Hey @Razer2007. I can see your pics now. Looks awesome. I must say you swayed me from Paludarium to Hillstream just by the pics. I think it's much more of a challenge than a paludarium.
    Ok the moss you have judging from the last pic on the wood looks like christmas moss. I have Java moss in my 5 foot and looks very different. Spikey moss also doesn't resemble what you have. Do you perhaps have a close up of the moss? Great setup man. Love it.
     
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    Razer2007 Danelle Vivier

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    Thanks WhitePhantom! I am getting some Hillstream loaches from Fish-etc. and some more from someone of the forum.
    I have no idea on other fish yet. If PetStop gets some gobies I will order some of them, providing I have enough algae.

    I don't really understand what you mean. The powerheads blow the water down the length of the tank - not the sides.
    And yep - I've seen his setup and talked to him about it, but his system is different.

    Haha that's great. Thanks.
    Here's a pic of the moss. Click for bigger.
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    Bazil Bazil

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    @Razer2007. That looks different to christmas moss. Looks very nice though.
     
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    Good_Times Kalahari Sandhaai

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    Giant/zebra danio, whiteclouds, stiphodon goby's.
     
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    Razer,That is a great looking tank. Also love the wood.
    Just a concern wrt the two power filters.
    If the flow is not restricted by the sponges and piping 2400L/H in a three foot tank is very very strong current . Too strong to accommodate any fish to live in comfort. IMO. I also think the flow by the power heads will be restricted by the connections, piping and sponge hence not realizing their true output flow.
    Why I say this is I have used filters over 1000L/H in a 3ft just to find my plecs hiding in every small shelter and food never settling down unless I switched off the power filters. HTH
     
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    khalid - this tank will be for hillstream loachs etc. Fish which lives in very fast flowing water.
     
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    Very interested esp once the fish are in & you have the +/-54x turnover.
    Got a web cam?
     
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