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    Ok posting this here since maybe one of you can help me. We are looking for an e collar/shock collar for one of our German Shepards. He is about 6 years old and is slowly becoming more protective and aggressive. Plus he has a very bad habit of chasing and chewing his tail when he feels panic - almost anything can send him into this state tho - from a cellphone ringing to cars on tv, to us laughing.

    This is really becoming an issue now since a year ago we had to amputate about 5cm off his tail since he chewed this raw as in to the bone!

    He has been thru vet visits like mad to try and determine if there was some nerve damage in his tail that caused him to chew it but after various scans and xrays and tests they determined he is just a very sensitive dog that has loads of issues (we got him when he was about 8 months old and suspect he was abused before that). He gets loads of exercise and play time and chews such as rawhide and hooves. He has 2 other females that keep him company but he still acts up a lot of the time. The one female has started grabbing him by the scruff of his neck when he starts going into panic mode - but this doesnt stop him, he just goes and hides and does it where we cant watch him.

    Hence we finally decided its time to try and see if we cant stop the behaviour and the aggression towards family friends with the shock collar. He doesnt bark all the time so we dont want a bark collar just one of those that gives them a mild shock (we cant use one with noise since he reacts badly to strange noises.)

    Where can I find a decent one?

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    Have you tried an animal behaviourist to try sort out the problem?

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    We have had him looked at by someone, our local vet has someone who deals with problem dogs. And they are the ones who advised the collar, but they are charging R4k for the thing. Unfortunately no matter what I do with him hes not getting better. Trust me I have tried it all. I actually got him to play - something he never did before I moved home. He didnt even know what a tennis ball was for he would pick it up and drop it immedately. Now he has a huge play drive but unfortunately nothing else seems to help - I cant calm him down when he goes into this panic mode. Ive sat on the floor for hours with him more often than not. Ive done the massages, the distracting him, all kinds of things. Trust me this decision to use the collar is last resort. But for the past 3 years even though I have had some good responses out of him, he is getting worse. And we really love him since he is a wonderful and loveable dog when hes not freaking out. We are trying to do everything possible to help him now.

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    hi there , have you by any chance trained him ?
    i used to have a manic border collie ,uncontrollable, insane running non stop jumping on everyone , attacking strangers.. after about 6 months of training what a difference, they love the one on one attention , and will get used to the noise, traffic, being outside their comfort zone etc.. hard work and lots of commitment , but well worth it .. oh and u get some good exercise yourself.

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    How regularly do you play with him and how often do you take him for walks?? How many km's do you walk with him and how often??

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    All our dogs have been for 2 years of training every sunday - I believe in training. He goes for a walk basically everyday of about 3km unless its misrable. We also play every afternoon for at least 30 mins non stop and then loads of mini playing during the evening. So its not an energy issue. He is just a bit broken, since the other two dogs dont do anything like that. We suspect he was abused when young and he still has issues with it. The other 2 GSD that we have are well trained, loveable and play - they make a noise when ppl arrive but within 3 mins they relax and go about their business where he will go find a corner to chase his tail.

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    Okay I see, IMO think the e-collor will only worsten his behaviour. Hence that said I am no professional.

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    See even our trainers at the club has run out of ideas. That is why we are considering the collar. And I am part of the GSD federation and it is one of the only options left to us, we have tried rewarding him for good behaviour, all the tricks in the book - We even tried getting him into Schutzhund training - he does well for the most part, but he still goes into panic stages at home. When I take him for his walks he behaves - no useless barking, he doesnt fly out to attack other dogs, hes a huge gentleman that even the neighbourhood kids will come hug when we walk. Its just at home that he is extremely insecure.

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    and a small dose of Rescue remedy ? not sure if you have tried that to calm him down a bit ? lol kinda take the edge off ..

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    Good luck, I have boerboels the female is so cool and placid but the male is a bit of a problem, 5 months and very very protective doesn't allow anyone near myself and my fiance.. Wich is good in one way but very bad in another. Dog is really mans best friend, try the e collar, maybe it works, keep me us posted.

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