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sailing_derrick
07-07-2009, 18:11
Hey has anyone used Purigen? I just got some for my 1.2m I read the package and instructions but i'd like to know if anyone has actually used the stuff and noticed a difference? Oh and lets leave the price and where i got it out of this thread LOL.
Yes we use it and to be honest I haven't seen much of a difference between the tanks that have Purigen in them and the others which don't.
i got some for the tannin from my wood it works for that :p
Oh and lets leave the price and where i got it out of this thread LOL.
:D LOL!!!!
Gert is using it and he really loves it....told me on Saturday that it does make a difference. I can't comment as I never used it before
CHeers
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Started using it last weekend. There is a definate difference in my tank since I put it in. My reason for using it was also tannin and it cleared my 400lt tank in 2 days. Definately recommend it. Costly but worth it.
Okay perhaps I'm not seeing a difference because I didn't have a tannin problem???? Seems as though everyone who's seen a difference has been due to tannin......I'll be setting up another 1.2m probably over the weekend and will add new wood to the tank and then I'll most likely see a difference :)
butcherman
08-07-2009, 08:11
i used it. i think for polishing the water and making it crystall clear it dose a fantastic job.
brentnorm
08-07-2009, 08:13
I find it definately adds a sparkle to the water and it brought my nitrate level down.
butcherman
08-07-2009, 08:17
I find it definately adds a sparkle to the water and it brought my nitrate level down.
not sure it absobes nitrates but i might be wrong
brentnorm
08-07-2009, 08:41
Could be coincidental.
butcherman
08-07-2009, 08:49
i think it might absorb the nutrients befor it breaks down into amonia
We've been using Purigen for as long as its been on the market and its excellent! besides its "polishing" capabilities, its excellent at controlling nitrites, nitrates and ammonia this can be confirmed if you do a before and after test on your tank... Its pricy but remember that it can be regenerated!
butcherman
08-07-2009, 08:53
how many times can you regenerate it?
how many times can you regenerate it?
we use this product in heavily stocked marine holding tanks and therefore do not re-use more than 4/5 times. I cant comment on home aquarium regeneration use but I would imagine that it would be safe to regenerate it many times. The best way to check its effectivenes is to continually test the tank water and when you find that the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels are not kept in check at the readings first obtained with using purigen then you know its time to get a new bottle :blink1:
Please excue my ignorance...
What is the main purpose of Purigen, and where do you put it... in the filter?
I have tannins in my tank that I usually only manage to control through water changes, but if Purigen will cure, then I will invest...
Hi Zoom - Purigen is used to polish or to clean your water, also to get rid of unwanted impurities. Works very well at getting rid of Tannins - Recommended
Zoom, what I have is a smallish internal power filter that I use. I remove the AC and put a bag of Purigen in the space the AC was and run it for 3 - 5 days to clear the water. I also have a major tannin problem so I started using Purigen last week.
Do ou need to take the purigen out when you medicate/dechlor?
sailing_derrick
09-07-2009, 11:56
Do ou need to take the purigen out when you medicate/dechlor?
Dechlor no but some medications will inhibit the regeneration of the stuff, the container suggests taking it out with some slime coat meds. Have a look at this it will tell u everything about it http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Purigen.html
A---HA!
I did some phoning around and found a LPS that stocks. You right.. the price is
........(phantom of the opera music playing in the back ground).......
*S*C*A*R*Y*
Going off now now to buy. Heehee
brentnorm
09-07-2009, 14:45
A---HA!
I did some phoning around and found a LPS that stocks. You right.. the price is
........(phantom of the opera music playing in the back ground).......
*S*C*A*R*Y*
Going off now now to buy. Heehee
Not if you regenerate it 5-10 times.
OK... put Purigen in my tank about 3 hours ago.... and YES... I can definately see a big difference in the clarity of the water!
Hi Guys and Gals - there may be a side benefit to Purigen for those who keep discus, wild angels and other skittish fish.
The "Panic Syndrome" sometimes encountered in these fish, which quickly becomes contagious to the other fishes in the tank, has been shown (anecdotal evidence only) to subdue the Panic and stop it spreading.
Where did you put the Purigen, and how much?
In the filter....can't remember exactly how much, I'd have to check it up for you
I just put it in my filter. 100g is rated to clean 400litres of water. I'm hoping there is no overdosing caution (didn't find any) because I put the entire 100g into my 160l tank's filter.
from what i have read its basicly AC on steroids but better so i dont think u can overdose :P
Reafer, you may not be able to overdose in quantity, but you can deffinately overdose in duration. If you leave it in your tank for too long, it starts killing the good bacteria in your tank. You must only use it till the water is clear and then you have to remove it.
Reafer, you may not be able to overdose in quantity, but you can deffinately overdose in duration. If you leave it in your tank for too long, it starts killing the good bacteria in your tank. You must only use it till the water is clear and then you have to remove it.
Noooooooo... don't tell me that. I wanted to leave it in permanently.:eek:
brentnorm
10-07-2009, 12:07
Mine stays in permanently with no side effects.
Anybody else?? I am also thinking of buying Purigen, but I also want to make sure I can keep it in permanently, to replace my charcoal...
My theory is that the Purigen does not actually kill the good bacteria. But since it removes all their food, they will die as a result. Leaving the Purigen in permanently is probably not an issue, as it will continue to remove ammonia, etc. that the now dead bacteria was meant to remove. Of course, you need to keep regenerating the Purigen or replace it once it reached end of life.
brentnorm
10-07-2009, 12:48
I regenerate mine every 4 weeks.
My theory is that the Purigen does not actually kill the good bacteria. But since it removes all their food, they will die as a result. Leaving the Purigen in permanently is probably not an issue, as it will continue to remove ammonia, etc. that the now dead bacteria was meant to remove. Of course, you need to keep regenerating the Purigen or replace it once it reached end of life.
So in effect what you're doing is removing the natural cycle and replacing it with PURIGEN??? (you totally kill the food of the good bacteria) That then becomes a synthetic tank?? And then you can never leave your tank without the Purigen, ever, ever again unless you start from scratch..
Henk Hugo
11-07-2009, 10:57
i believe there is a new supply of Purigen coming into SA in 6 to 8 weeks time (along with Florite). Panorama will drop their price even more....
@carping
Yeah that sounds just about right. I don't have purigen myself, I use natural resources. It's cheaper! But I admit I might want to try it out for a 3-day period to see if it will make the water clearer. But that's an expensive experiment...
OK... So it's been in for 3 days now. I've taken it out to see how long the water will stay clear. But I am very happy with the result none-the-less.
Didn't realise it was recommended to take it out once it's cleared the water. Nothing on the packaging said that. Just said to put it in the filter where lot's of water passes over it, and then replenish it with bleech when it changes colour.
I don't remove mine for about 6 months. Then I replace it. Bought a big bottle for R300 from hillfox.
Henk Hugo
13-07-2009, 09:29
So now i need to ask... will Purigen remove plant fertz and liquid carbon that you add to a tank?
That's also been on my mind all weekend? I put in plant fertz on Friday, and it dawned on my that the Purigen might have taken it out by sat. (?)
brentnorm
13-07-2009, 10:59
I am sure the manufacturers will be able to answer that question. I will e-mail them and ask them.
Just put filter wool in my filter (for the first time - up until now, we have been on carbon & sponge only) and WOW, the water is looking beautiful. (kinda wish I could dive in there myself)
Thanks for the tip Zoom! :o)
Let's see what the manufacturers say about Purigen and the fert and Co2... Also wondering if it will take out stuff like Heal-all and stresscoat...?
The Seachem site states that it has minimal effect on fertilizers. In mind mind that means it does absorb some of it, but possibly not all of it. The questions is, does it absorb all the diferent components in equal parts? Or will it affect the balance/concentration of the different fertilizer elements?
Seachem also advise you to remove it when medicating the tank.
I would take out Purigen as Carbon when medicating Madam. When you finished medicating... (follow instructions on med. bottle- Some medications need to be added every day for a week, some once a day, some twice a day)... then put the purigen or carbon back in to take the meds out the water.
As far as I've read, purigen doesn't effect all medication, so I would advise putting the carbon into your filter for a few days after medication to take meds out, then remove the carbon again.
Ferryman
15-08-2009, 21:29
just a quote from some random site google found that has purigen as a sponsor somehow. so they answer questions in a thread where people bug them for answers:)
on medication and its effect on purigen:
"Certain slime coat products/conditioners(those that are amine-based polymers) will render Purigen non-regenerable. What these polymers will do is bind to the Purigen; when attempting to regenerate the resin, they will then bind with chlorine in the bleach to form chloramine, which can be released into the aquarium. This is not just an issue with Purigen but with all resins being sold in the pet trade. The problem only occurs when one attempts to regenerate the resin, there is no problem unless you wish to regenerate the resin you are using. Seachem products do not contain amine- based polymers and are therefore safe to be used in conjunction with not only our resins, but also with other companies' resins."
on how much purigen to put in a filter for 190l tank, the guy wanted to know if purigen should fill the whole filter for better effect
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Thanks for the post! Purigen should be placed in the filter where it will receive maximum water flow through the media. I would recommend placing two bags in your filter so that water is coming into contact with more of the Purigen, allowing for it to be much more efficient at removing organic wastes. I hope this was helpful and please let us know if you have any further questions! Have a great day!"
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just thought it'd be good to add here for whomever wants some more info?
Ferryman
16-08-2009, 21:58
another interesting post i found and thought i'd share
"Well I'm putting this on here to help people avoid my HUGE mistake. I was doing a 5 gallon water change on my BC29 yesterday and decided to recharge the Purigen bag by soaking in bleach, I did not let the Purigen sit in the Prime long enough for all the chlorine bleach to be neutralized before returning the Purigen back to the tank. As soon as I placed the Purigen bag by the pump and turned it on, it had immediate effects on the tank and I lost all of my fish (orange spot goby, 6-line, firefish) except my saddleback in a matter of seconds.
I didn't even smell it which I normally do. I only left the Purigen with Prime to de-chlorinate for 4 hours verses the 8-9 hours that it should be. I shouldn't have been in such a rush to return it to the tank. Lesson learned!"
Fish Fantasy
17-08-2009, 08:09
I Use purigen in my tank and it works like a bomb, my water is so crystal clear and fresh. It's the best investment i ever made so far on my tank. :)
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