View Full Version : New Pangasius hasn't eaten in almost three weeks - help!
So, here's the story ~ I recently found out that the woman at my friend's work was selling her entire setup that she'd been running for about 5 years (I'd say about 160L or so), but as I already have a 280L community aquarium I wasn't interested in the tank itself, but asked what she would like for the fish. She told me R250 if I took them all (Four full-grown gouramis (2x Blue, 1x Golden, 1x Pearl), 1x 25cm Gibbiceps Pleco, 2x 15cm Pangasius), which was a real bargain, so I agreed and collected them all on the Thursday (the 3rd of November). Now, before you tell me that I should not have Pangasius in a 280L - I know this and will make a plan when they outgrow the tank. I brought all the fish home in a styrofoam fish box that I'd bought from my LFS specifically for the purpose. It was not a long car ride - less than a km from my house in fact. The first problem came about when I had to transfer the pangasius from the box to my tank, as I had originally wanted to bag all the fish but did not have elastic bands with which to secure the bags, so opted just to use the carrier box. Now, as someone who had never before kept pangasius, I did not know about their pectoral spines. I'd done a fair amount of reading before I got them, but strangely did not come across this piece of information. Needless to say, I ended up having to cut the first pangasius out of my net. He managed to destroy both pectoral fins in the process though, and after he started to grow fungus on the wounds, I took him to my LFS to get treated, as they are about 200m from my house and I am a very valued customer there. He's doing well and is finally eating.
My second pangasius I decided to catch with my hands, as I did not want a repeat of the net incident. Problem is, pangasius spook easily and tend to hurt themselves, which is precisely what this fellow did - bashed his eye into the side of the box and it filled with blood. At this point I was feeling awful - I'd managed to get both fish injured, and if I hadn't made stupid mistakes it wouldn't have happened. I got the pangasius (and the other fish) into the tank without further issue though. Would have liked to acclimatise them properly as I normally do, but since I did not have the option of bags (and the pleco was much too big for a bag anyway), I couldn't do this. The eye has healed up nicely, but problem is, I have not seen the Pangasius eat since I got him. On thursday it will be three weeks - when should I start to worry? I'll post some detailed information about my setup below, and maybe we can try to work out why he isn't eating.
Tank: 280L Boyu HX-1000
Feeding: Nutrafin MAX Flake, Frozen Bloodworms, Algae wafers, and Tetrabits. I mostly feed with the lights on, but sometimes feed after lights out or before lights on, and haven't noticed him eat at all. Everyone else in the tank is eating very well, it's just the pangasius that doesn't seem to eat.
Tankmates: 1x reedfish (20cm or so, he's small still), 5x plecos (2 are large, the others are under 15cm), 3x clown loaches (small, under 10cm), 2x small tinfoil barbs, 1x blue small botia, 1x skunk loach, 2x large blue gouramis, 2x pearl gouramis (1 full grown, one small still), male and female pair of dwarf gouramis, 1x large golden gourami, 1x red tailed shark (not larger than 10cm), 1x african butterfly fish, 2x sterbai cories, 2x synodontis petricola, 3x giant danio (small but growing well), 5x angelfish (tiny still). No-one bothers him and he does not bother anyone else. The community as a whole gets along rather well. Botia and shark occasionally chase the clowns, but it's nothing serious, and the clowns are as happy as ever.
Behaviour: Very active, swims furiously back and forth most of the time. However, no matter what I am feeding, he shows absolutely no interest in - a chunk of bloodworms can drift right past his mouth and he will do nothing, just swim past.
Water parameters: Nitrite: 0, pH: between 6.0 and 7 - I lost my pH colour indicator chart a while back so I just work by eye. Last time I had it checked at the LFS it was 6.8
Filtration: 900L/h turnover, built in trickle filtration system
Why is this guy not eating? Is he still settling in (at three weeks??? That doesn't make sense to me)? Maybe he's shy and doesn't want to eat in front of me? I'm worried, LFS tells me to stop worrying and that he will eventually eat, but I don't really trust them. How long can he go without eating? Am I going to lose him if he doesn't eat soon? Any help would be gladly appreciated! He's a beautiful fish and I would not like to lose him!
Hi Zeiphex
1. Ask the woman who had him previously what she was feeding him, maybe he's just fussy
2. I have a pangasius, about 30-35cms, and all he eats is pellets (the big ones) and cichlid sticks, nothing else!
Derek
- She gave me the rest of the food when I bought the fish, looks like it's just goldfish flake or low quality tropical flake, not really the best diet for any of the fish I have. Even if he was interested in eating it, the gouramis would make sure that none of it reached the middle-bottom of the tank anyway.
- Believe it or not I tried feeding bloodworm after lights out (reedfish is nocturnal), after I wrote this post (was about 4:30am, I'm a night-owl okay). I left the room to go and brush my teeth, and when I stuck my head round the door again, the pangasius was head down in the substrate, feeding. Of course he stopped as soon as I came close enough for him to see. I'm thinking this must be an issue of shyness, which hopefully he'll get over. The environment he came from is quite different to mine - tank was somewhat neglected (no lights, only cleaned once a month or so.), and was in an area where there was little traffic. My tank has two sets of lights, and my room tends to be quite busy, so I guess it would make sense that he's still shy. I just hope he gets over it soon, as my other fish are very greedy eaters and I don't know how much food he's going to get for himself this way.
What about Nitrate? Phosphate?
That many fish in a 280l tank? :blink:
This is gonna sound weird but try Koi pellets or make your own food. I also had 2 large pangasius cats. Gosh they only ate koi pellets and DIY food. Try and if no reaction, maybe try some vegetables,mixed with garlic into blender and try that.
Hi Neilh - Nitrate and Phosphate I'm not actually sure. I don't have the test kits but could easily get it checked at the LFS. I would just assume that if my Nitrite level is 0, Nitrates should be okay as well, because I do very regular water changes + gravel vac.
I don't think it's overstocked at the moment, not considering the size of the fish anyway (most are very small still). I've had tanks far more stocked than this and not lost fish. Filtration is good and I'm prepared to add a secondary filtration system if it becomes necessary.
To be honest I think the pangasius is just shy after all - if you read to my reply to Derek you'll see why.
Mark D
Thanks, I might give that a try, though it would seem he actually -is- eating, but just does not want to let me see him in the act. Silly fish...
Nitrate is also poisonous, its just a lot more tolerable compared to Ammonia/Nitrite
I know Nitrate is poisonous, but regular (weekly 25%) water changes should be keeping the levels down. To be honest I used to have a Nitrate test kit, but it ran out/got lost when I moved house and I just never bought another one.
Hey, I got an albino pengasuis a year or so ago with a 2nd hand tank I purchased all the fish besides the albino peng are healthy and fine.
Same problem, did not eat, hurt himself in the tank abit and eventually passed on. From what I read I decided I will not get one ever again as they are extremely sensitive fish and numerous people say that they have difficulty getting them to eat once moved and they pass on.
Sorry I know not very good news :(
I'm sorry to hear about that :( I think mine is eating (caught him out last night when I left the room and then peeked back in), but he's just being very very shy about it.
@Zeiphex (http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/member.php?u=2330) I would not worry to much they do tend to eat at night when you'r not there the one I got didn't eat at all or so I thought now he's eating when I feed the others mine only eat tetra cichlid sticks. I spoke to the preveous owner that had him since he was 5cm and he also said he never used to see him eat but grew up to 45cm when I got him and he is aboat 52cm now and nearly eating out my hand you must put your hand in the tank and move it around very slow to make them used to it and not long after they won't be going into overdrive when you put your hand in the tank or move past it.
Thanks for the tips, Willem :) Yes, he's definitely eating now. Seems like he deliberately wanted to spite me and make me get all worried to the point where I posted a forum topic about him, then he started eating right away after I did that. Naughty little bugger.
Henk Hugo
18-11-2011, 05:46
I'm sorry to say but your tank is WAY to small for the fish you have. Pangasius gets massive (used in aquaculture) and needs a pond to be housed.
mydummyname
18-11-2011, 10:12
, I ended up having to cut the first pangasius out of my net. He managed to destroy both pectoral fins in the process though, and after he started to grow fungus on the wounds, I took him to my LFS to get treated, as they are about 200m from my house and I am a very valued customer there. He's doing well and is finally eating.
but problem is, I have not seen the Pangasius eat since I got him.
hi, i actually kinda of met you at that lfs, i think, a week or so ago, you pointed the injured pangasius out to me, in one of the upper tanks, youre a rather slender blonde if i remember correctly?
i think my advice was regular water changes, its my cure all lol
anyway, glad to hear he's recovering well tho.
the thing with pangasius cats are that they really are nocturnal, its why they tend to seem shy during the day, that is normal pangasius cats like you have and also the hi-fin variety. so feeding the tank after lights out will ensure that they and other nocturnal fish will get adequate food.
good luck and keep us posted on both of your fish's progress.
Henk Hugo - Thanks for stating the obvious. If you'd read my original post properly you would have seen this: "Now, before you tell me that I should not have Pangasius in a 280L - I know this and will make a plan when they outgrow the tank." Pangasius can grow up to lengths of an excess of 4ft, I KNOW this. I did all this research before I got the fish and I know that they can't stay in a 280L for very long. But they are both small still, about 15cm. When they start to outgrow it I have every intention of finding them a good home. As I said before, the offer was R250 for everything, which included the 2 Pangasius.
Sorry if I sound a bit short. I just woke up to find my 25cm Gibbiceps pleco dead. Two symmetrical wounds, one near the base of each fin. No idea how or why it happened, but my guess is that he somehow got stuck somewhere and injured himself, then managed to free himself but died shortly after. Don't know of anything else that would have killed a healthy pleco of this size overnight.
Sorry about the pleco Zeiphex but on the positive side, glad your pangasius is eating.
Derek - I'm glad he's eating as well :) Still worried about why the Pleco died though. Checked the nitrite levels and they were up quite a bit, but since they were fine two days ago I think it was more a case of the dead pleco polluting the water, as he was quite large. Did two sets of 25% water changes to bring the levels down though.
mydummyname - You probably did meet me there, but I'm not blonde, not by any stretch of the imagination - http://zeiphex.deviantart.com/art/New-ID-yay-262890771. Also I'll keep you posted :)
mydummyname
21-11-2011, 07:11
Derek - I'm glad he's eating as well :) Still worried about why the Pleco died though. Checked the nitrite levels and they were up quite a bit, but since they were fine two days ago I think it was more a case of the dead pleco polluting the water, as he was quite large. Did two sets of 25% water changes to bring the levels down though.
mydummyname - You probably did meet me there, but I'm not blonde, not by any stretch of the imagination - http://zeiphex.deviantart.com/art/New-ID-yay-262890771. Also I'll keep you posted :)
lol it was you, at least i got the slender bit right, blame it on a lack of sleep, our new little one keeps us up nights :)
now its very strange that you mentioning high nitrite leveles, i been checking my water paramaters, and they are remaining consistently high despite more frequent water changes, and i've also been experiencing fish losses consistently the last few days, including an orange marble pleco!
its entirely possible you pleco died of the high toxic levels and then his fins could have been nipped the other fish after he had died..
i wonder if there isnt something wrong with our water in cape town...
anyone else in the southern suburbs experiencing similar high toxic levels or unexplained fish losses?
mydummyname - Im in the northern subs and altho I havent had any fish deaths (ok except for one guppy), I have also noticed the higher nitrite levels. Over the past few weeks mine has been jumping around from 2 up to 10 - and that was after a waterchange - 50%. Also have been having issues with my ph - its been fluctuating from 7 up to 8.2 and now this week its down to 5.8. So far my fish have been fine, but yea its weird and my LFS where I have my tests done mentioned a few people are having the same kind of fluctuations.
mydummyname
21-11-2011, 08:10
@mydummyname (http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/member.php?u=979) - Im in the northern subs and altho I havent had any fish deaths (ok except for one guppy), I have also noticed the higher nitrite levels. Over the past few weeks mine has been jumping around from 2 up to 10 - and that was after a waterchange - 50%. Also have been having issues with my ph - its been fluctuating from 7 up to 8.2 and now this week its down to 5.8. So far my fish have been fine, but yea its weird and my LFS where I have my tests done mentioned a few people are having the same kind of fluctuations.
if definitely seems as if something's up.. my fish losses also seem to occurr mainly after a water change...
not cool!
Yep I have been ageing my water for 4 days at lease between water changes and that hasnt made a difference at all. At least so far my fish seems to cope with it, but if it goes on much longer I will have to make a choice and see what I can do to keep the parameters more stable. Its driving me insane!
mydummyname - I personally don't think it's an issue with the water. I always put filtered water into my tank, though I don't know if that would take out nitrites at all. My nitrite levels were, as I said, perfect two days before I lost the pleco, and during that time I didn't do a water change. The pleco died on thursday night, and by the time I discovered him on friday afternoon (I'm a late sleeper, okay :P ) he was already beginning to decay (the smell was so bad I had to throw him out as quickly as possible and couldn't examine the body very well). After I removed him from the tank, I checked the nitrite levels and they were up a bit (I'm not sure how much, as I've lost the nitrite colour indicator chart as well as my pH indicator chart) - looked yellow-orange on the test kit when it should be light yellow. I did two 25% water changes and the next day the levels were back to 0. I really am not convinced that it's the water, and I think in my case it was the body of the pleco polluting the water.
mydummyname
21-11-2011, 14:53
no worries, i really hope youre right tho.. a problem with our water could be disastrous...
finger's crossed :)
That would be disastrous indeed D: I suggest that people who are experiencing unusually elevated nitrite levels do a nitrite test on their tapwater. Let's see if it picks up anything.
On a side note, pangasius is eating very well now, even with the tank lights on. I also took home my injured pangasius today, as the fins are healing up and all the fungus has disappeared. So everything from my side is currently good!
mydummyname
21-11-2011, 15:12
That would be disastrous indeed D: I suggest that people who are experiencing unusually elevated nitrite levels do a nitrite test on their tapwater. Let's see if it picks up anything.
On a side note, pangasius is eating very well now, even with the tank lights on. I also took home my injured pangasius today, as the fins are healing up and all the fungus has disappeared. So everything from my side is currently good!
thats a good tip! +1
i'm glad to hear that :) and dont worry, he'll take a while to outgrow the tank, hi-fins grow much faster than the normal pangasius...
Thank you very much to everyone who helped out here :) Pangasius is now eating like a little pig, even with the tank lights on. Added my other pangasius back to the tank yesterday, and he is also eating well. Check out the video of my tank below - you can see both Pangasius in it. The one who wasn't eating is the one that the video focuses on :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzQ6tRaYxjU
He is looking good!
I have to say I think I found what caused my nitrite spike, after going thru the tank with a fine toothed comb I found a few snails that must have hitched a ride with the plants and it seems that they didnt survive the move - all dead so cleaned the tank properly from top to bottom, all dead snails are now gone. Will test the water later on.
mydummyname
23-11-2011, 08:18
Thank you very much to everyone who helped out here :) Pangasius is now eating like a little pig, even with the tank lights on. Added my other pangasius back to the tank yesterday, and he is also eating well. Check out the video of my tank below - you can see both Pangasius in it. The one who wasn't eating is the one that the video focuses on :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzQ6tRaYxjU
lovely looking tank you have there :)
i LOVE the angels! and you have them in suitable numbers :)
nice community tank but the clown loach needs to be in a shoal of at least 5, but 8 is better if you really want to see their proper behavior, tinfoil barbs should be in a school of 5 at least as well, preferably 7, but he will outgrow the tank within 6 months or less anyway, and if you are experiencing any nipped fins or anything like that, the chances are good the red tail shark is the culprit. (him or the blue botia, blue botia very aggressive fish)
this is what a school of 7 tinfoils look like in a tank, they school really beautifully! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AW76BIt3o those guys outgrew my 320L within about 5 months tho.
mydummyname
23-11-2011, 08:20
He is looking good!
I have to say I think I found what caused my nitrite spike, after going thru the tank with a fine toothed comb I found a few snails that must have hitched a ride with the plants and it seems that they didnt survive the move - all dead so cleaned the tank properly from top to bottom, all dead snails are now gone. Will test the water later on.
snails! nasties!
i used to have that problem, now i make sure i soak all new plants in a bucket with salt water overnight befor adding them to my tank. no more snail problem :)
Hehehe I cant do that to plants - I will kill it! I normally clean the plants and go over them carefully, but obviously I missed a few this time :S At least now I know what the issue was and at least the tank is shiny and clean again.
mydummyname
23-11-2011, 08:56
Hehehe I cant do that to plants - I will kill it!
anyway, it works for me lol
be cool!
Wyvern - You sure it was the snails? I have about 50 golden apple snails in my main tank (and another 50 or so in a filtered, heated 14L tank with a Xenopus tadpole), and they seem to die all the time but it never affects my nitrite - maybe because they get eaten as soon as they die by the loaches (or perhaps the loaches are actually killing them in the first place, as I know how they love snails).
mydummyname - Thank you! Yes, I have five angels, I know that they need to be kept in groups. I bought them tiny because they're very cheap then, but I know from past experience that they grow VERY fast if cared for properly. And the clown loaches, yes I know - I'm going to be getting more as soon as I can afford it! I also know about the tinfoil barbs, and would love to keep more, but at the rate these guys are growing, I'll probably have to find them a new home pretty soon anyway, so not going to get any more. I have also not found my Shark or Blue Botia to cause any real problems - the shark chases a lot but never causes damage, and the Blue Botia sometimes chases and nips, especially with the clowns, but he's also not caused any damage. In fact, when I got my largest clown (the one you see in the video), I nicknamed him "scar" - he was the last one in the dealer's tank, which he was sharing with two medium Oscars. When I brought him home I noticed that he was positively covered in scratches, and my 9 year old sister actually asked if he had ick (cute, huh? I'm teaching her well). Now though, it's all healed up and he's looking lovely!
P.S - your tank looks lovely! Pity that the tinfoils outgrew it though!
Zeiphex I just had my water tested and the nitrites are dropping. So yeah i think it was the snails, especially since I found them they where all moldy and very very slimy (ek het gegril). Plus there were about ten of them (I found more today)
Oh yuck x.x Yes, that sounds about right. Dead snails smell so gross :/ Just keep doing 25% water changes until the levels are back to 0, even if you have to do it every day. Also, how do you get that mention thing right? I've been trying to do it but if I use the mention tags, it just comes up as an @ instead. It wouldn't make much sense if you were using [url= " " ] tags every time and linking to the user's profile.
hehehe Im doing the changes daily as you said, it seems that I have lost one of my whiteclouds due to this :(
The @ works as follows :
type Zeiphex - as one word and spell the person's name correctly :D
mydummyname
24-11-2011, 08:24
And the clown loaches, yes I know - I'm going to be getting more as soon as I can afford it!
i see that they a bit scarce in decent sizes lately here in the cape, best bet would be to keep checking the classifieds of this site or maybe post a "wanted" add on the site, also, keep an eye on gumtree, sometimes you get lucky.
I also know about the tinfoil barbs, and would love to keep more, but at the rate these guys are growing, I'll probably have to find them a new home pretty soon anyway
how long do you have them for so far?
have also not found my Shark or Blue Botia to cause any real problems - the shark chases a lot but never causes damage, and the Blue Botia sometimes chases and nips
how long have these guys been in the tank? normally aggressive behaviour only starts once a fish begins to set up territory and this can take weeks or months.. keep an eye on them tho.. blue botia are known to STAND UP TO AND WIN fights with malawis. red tail sharks would never win that battle tho. of the three cousins; red tail shark, rainbow shark and flying fox, the red tail is the most aggressive, the rainbow is a bit less aggressive, and the flying fox is a bit less aggressive than that even, altho these sharks tend to be aggro mainly toward other fish that are "shark like" or torpedo shaped, eg bala sharks and other red-tails, rainbows or flying foxes.
the shark chases a lot but never causes damage
sometimes this constant chasing can lead to a fish not being able to eat, being overly stressed and eventually death, watch that the fish being chased doesnt get "fin separation" if this occurrs, you know the shark is gonna eventually kill him but butting/ramming him and constantly stressing him. fish do not only die of physical damage but also by being exhausted and constantly stressed by the aggressor. which fish does he tend to chase mainly?
P.S - your tank looks lovely! Pity that the tinfoils outgrew it though!
thanks you! you have no idea how much i miss them, i initially got them to serve as dither fish to calm my bala sharks down, but they quickly took over and became the centre piece of the tank and i grew to love them so much, i sold them with much sadness, but, i'm planning a 2,5M tank in the near future, specifically for tinfoils.. finances is the big hiccup here for now :) spider will probably be the dude who's gonna build it for me.. he's great with building tanks..
So yeah i think it was the snails, especially since I found them they where all moldy and very very slimy (ek het gegril).
ek gril now self!!
lol
mydummyname
Please excuse me if I make little to no sense - I have been up 20 hours now as for some reason insomnia got to me last night @_@
1. Thanks for the tip on the clowns :)
2. I've had them for just over a month - they've doubled in size at least since I got them!
3. Blue Botia has been in the tank about two months. Tank is a relatively setup after I lost my first tank (was only 45L) while I was out for the weekend. It cracked, all the water flooded out, and I came home to an empty tank full of dead fish - not cool. Was depressed for weeks over it. The shark has been in the tank for about a month. Originally I was not planning on getting one, as I know that they are the more aggressive ones, but went into the LFS and noticed that they had just the one - a lot bigger and prettier than the ones they normally have, and he was cheap too, so couldn't resist. He's proved to be a wonderful fish though - if I put my fingers in the tank he will swim up and gently nibble them.
4. The shark doesn't chase anyone in particular, neither does the Blue Botia. I know that sometimes a shark will chase other fish to the point where the stress either directly or indirectly kills them (I once made a noob mistake of keeping two in one very small tank - no points for guessing what happened!) No-one has damaged fins (shark had a tiny rip yesterday, maybe he decided to pick on the Blue Botia), and everyone eats well (the clowns are looking like little pigs after all the bloodworms they've been eating) and swims freely out in the open. Shark mostly goes about his own business, but sometimes chases the tinfoils or the loaches - so far it really doesn't seem to be a problem, but if I do notice it becoming a problem, I guess I will rehome the shark.
Wyvren - why thank you :D
mydummyname
24-11-2011, 09:58
Please excuse me if I make little to no sense - I have been up 20 hours now as for some reason insomnia got to me last night @_@
nope i can understand this fully, i sometimes suffer from insomnia myself, longest i've been without sleep is 4 days flat, that is without even dozing off for a few seconds, it can make you feel as if there's live wires running thru your brain. not cool, just try to rest your body as best you can, until it (and your mind) finally decides to go sleep..
It cracked, all the water flooded out, and I came home to an empty tank full of dead fish - not cool. Was depressed for weeks over it
that must have been terrible, one gets attached to them and it breaks your heart to see them die :(
He's proved to be a wonderful fish though - if I put my fingers in the tank he will swim up and gently nibble them
lol now your hooked, you will never ever have a tank without one :) even if it means getting him his own home. they are wonderful fish to keep. i keep my one, a flying fox, with a 16 strong school of tiger barbs. he keeps them nicely disceplined :)
(I once made a noob mistake of keeping two in one very small tank - no points for guessing what happened!)
right then, no more lessons on rainbow sharks for you, after having this experience, you are already a bit of an expert on them for sure, coz that is exactly how i learned, except mine were 3, and they were in a 30L!!!
the clowns are looking like little pigs after all the bloodworms they've been eating
yep, most people are not aware that clown loaches are A) nocturnal and, B) carnivorus.
but if I do notice it becoming a problem, I guess I will rehome the shark
i say, if it aint broke, dont try to fix it :)
i checked out your art page by the way, you are very talented.
- Yeah, it doesn't happen to me often, but the last two weeks or so I've been unable to fall asleep before 5:30am. 8ish this morning I still hadn't fallen asleep and siblings were running around making a noise before school, so I just gave it up for the time-being. Yay, moving out next month and then I will no longer have to deal with the noise-makers!
- I know. Tank was terribly overstocked too (was the tank I sort of learned in), but the fish were doing really well. I lost three gorgeous clowns (among others)- they were my favourites! Turns out desk was slightly sloped, but I did not think that it was enough to break a tank. Well, I was wrong, because a few weeks back an identical 45L tank broke in the same way! Fortunately all it had in it were some Xenopus tadpoles, and I was sitting right next to it when it happened. Actually heard a loud "CRACK". I'm just thankful that my electronics escaped unharmed from both incidents (I lost a multiplug first time round, but hey, it could have been worse), though to be honest I would have rather lost my custom built gaming computer than lost that tank :/ Money can replace a computer (okay, I don't really have money but would have made a plan somehow), but money can't replace something's life, or the emotional value you placed on it.
- Yes, I do believe I am hooked! It's just a pity that their lifespans are only around 5 years.
- I guess we all make mistakes - it's unfortunately how we learn. In my case it was lack of research and trusting the LFS's advice ("Yes, get two, they like to have friends!"). Needless to say, I have had enough bad experiences from trusting LFS advice to ensure that I will never do it again. I always check my facts online now before I buy, and I do it across multiple sources to leave as little room for error as possible.
- My clowns always seem to be active all the time, but I think I have heard that they are nocturnal. I do know that they are carnivorous - they love snails and really relish bloodworm. They look so cute after they've had a good meal, as their bellies get so full. Mine eat just about anything though - they even love poking holes in the lettuce that I put in for the plecos, and the click when they eat the pleco algae wafers. I've read that clowns click when they are eating something that they like.
- Agreed! So hopefully it does not become broke :P And thank you very much for the compliment! It's very much appreciated.
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