new 4 ft under construction

[butcherman]

bought a second hand 4ft tank slowly been putting it together. This is what i got so far.

[veegal]

Very nice butcherman. What you planning to keep in there or haven't you decided yet??? It'll be great to see the progress pics as you get it :D

Seems as though you are also suffering from MTS :D

[butcherman]

lol you have only seen one ot ther other 4 tanks :p the dicus and angels going in here it also has a 90l sump under the tank.

here are some more pics i got a lone molly in there and an ancesrtid while the tank cycles

[veegal]

lol you have only seen one ot ther other 4 tanks :p the dicus and angels going in here it also has a 90l sump under the tank.

here are some more pics i got a lone molly in there and an ancesrtid while the tank cycles

Oh my - the bug has bitten bad!!!!! :bigsmile::p lol

[butcherman]

will pos more just not when im back in the office. This work thing is getting in my way :P

[butcherman]

the sump with dsb its got a 2000 l/h return pump

[solex69]

Nice Butcherman, looking forward to seeing the tank develop

What plants do you have in mind of putting in there?

Cheers
Dale

[butcherman]

im not that knowledgeable on plants so not sure what i shold put in.

[solex69]

Some easy growers is what I can recommend to go in there ie, Limnophillas, Anubias, Microsorums, certain Ludwigias. Most of these you'll find at your LFS. I'll post a few specifics tonight when I'm home

[butcherman]

yes some pics please :D

[Carping]

yes some pics please
Fully agree Butcherman. Names only doesn't help much. You never even sure that the LFS knows the right info on fishes, let alone giving you the right plant if you ask for it by name

[Slojo]

LOL.
Went to a lfs on Sunday.
Asked the guy in the aquarium dept.(after battling to get his attention away from his girl)"Do you stock Flourish?"

Answer i got.
What do you use it for?

[solex69]

lol, no worries oakes, I'm actually starting another thread shortly re plants

[Carping]

You wouldn't believe all the different "Java ferns" we've run into.... Luckily I've seen a pic, so I had some idea what to look for. Only found one supplier (out of +- 5, who actually had the right thing!!!)..

[butcherman]

Hi guys
I just thought i would share a recent photo of my tank with you guys.

[ben]

looking good Butcherman

[Donny]

Butcherman looking awesome :) :)

[ACE007]

Very nice indeed

[Khalid]

Nice job
Are those angels bought or bred by yourself?

[butcherman]

got them from the lfs when they where only a few cm tall

[Gareth]

Looks good Butcherman
love the Angels

[Whipme]

Wow, that's looking great.
But is that marine equipment I see in the photos?
A tunze powerhead and a hang-on protein skimmer in the sump?

[carl p]

Lyk baie goed

[butcherman]

Wow, that's looking great.
But is that marine equipment I see in the photos?
A tunze powerhead and a hang-on protein skimmer in the sump?

Yes Whipmeyour very observant :party: the skimmer is out now i was playing with it to understand how a skimmer works. I was wondering how long it would be befor someone noticed it. as for the power head its acctually a sunsun powerhead 3000lph and yes i was playing around with it too :p busy investigating starting a marine tank :blink1: but found putting it on for about a minute every few days it keeps the floor gravel clean :idea: sort of like having a storm.

[slayer]

tank look good

[ben]

i tested my skimmer with fresh water and it did not make any foam it only work with salt water.I think its a good idea with the power head ti will keep all the Debris from accumulating on the bottom.

[butcherman]

I think its a good idea with the power head ti will keep all the Debris from accumulating on the bottom.
thats exactly what i was thinking cause it gets most of the detritus moving about giving the filter a chance to suck it up.

[Whipme]

It's too bad the protein skimmer doesn't work in the freshwater, it would make the cleanup so much easier!

[Zoom]

Here comes a noob question:

What does the protein skimmer actually do? I know it's for marine set ups, that's why I've never bothered investigated it. But how does it "clean" water... I thought it just created protein in the water?

[butcherman]

it extracts protien befor it breaks down into amonia

[ben]

The skimmer have a pump at the bottom that mixed water with air ,all the fish Pooh and wast products gets stuck to the bubbles, this bubbles will then over flow into the container with all the crap still stuck to it, and the clean water flow back to your tank.

[Whipme]

Basically it transports the waste via foam (which doesn't easily form in freshwater, could be something to do with oils) into the collecting cup at the top of the skimmer. It's something to do with molecular forces and the surface area of the bubbles. But yes, in essence it just pulls the waste out of the system before it has a chance to break down.

[Wimpie]

Saltwater is denser than freshwater, that is the only reason why protein skimmers cant be used on freshwater aquariums.

[ben]

Thats a pity because it works really well in salt water tanks