ANOTHER ID Needed Please.

[Skye01]

Hi All,

I have another lot of things that I need ID's for... These are some plants that I purchased that I'm not too sure of, please can you help me ID them...

P.S. I'm really sorry for the very bad pics...

TIA

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This is the first one... It sad but my fish loved the leaves so much that they almost stripped it bare so it's in a bucket busy recovering at the moment...

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This is the next one... Sorry for the scale marks on the front glass, I will be sorting this out later today. Again, sorry for the crappy pics....

I'm going to have to do another mail with a couple of the other plants that I need ID's on as it won't allow me to upload any more pics to this mail.

Thanks again,
Kim

[Skye01]

Please can you help me out with ID's on these plants...?:confused:

[Vez]

i cannot remember plant No1, and plants No2 looks like some sort of Hygro?

[shihr]

1st one dont look aquatic and second is ludwigia repens

[azurekoi]

1st one is known as "Rose bush" in the trade - Shihr is right,it aint a true aquatic...Go plant it in the garden,might grow there...

[Skye01]

Vez, thanks for trying...

shihr, thanks for that... I had my doubts hence the asking. Ludwigia Repens... Is it BL?

azurekoi, thanks, I'll give it a try in the garden...

I have a couple more, can you help me out again?

[azurekoi]

Nope - L.repens is not BL - some others in the genus are though,so grow away...
If jou do try it in the garden,first cover with a cut of 2l coke bottle to help keep humidity high - wont make it otherwise...

[shihr]

sure post it here.. lets take a look

[Skye01]

azurekoi, thanks for the info.

shihr, I will post the pics here in a bit...

[Skye01]

Hi All,

Here are pics of another unknown plant that I have in my tank...

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This is supposed to be an aquatic fern but I'm not too sure.

I will take pics of the other plants and post them just now.

TIA
Kim

[Lizid]

Non aquatic Kim sorry I have also been caught by that damn plant...

[Skye01]

GRRRR....:motz: Why cant the lfs's stock real aquatic plants rather than all sorts of junk that doesn't belong in a tank...

Thanks Lizid!

[azurekoi]

Yup - it's a Fern from Mozambique if I remember correctly... Dont blame the LFS's,not completely their fault...they just dont Know any better...

[Skye01]

azurekoi, thanks for the info, I will plant it out later or tomorrow.

I have to disagree with you on it not being the fault of the lfs. I feel that if you start doing something, like a pet shop, then it is your responsibility to know or learn as much info as possible about what you are selling. If one person can't do it alone then I feel that they should employ people that have knowledge and exerience in the department that they work in... I would never attempt to breed fish if I had no clue on the subject, so I would go and study it all up before hand, or is this not the way business's work these days?

I'm not ranting, but I feel that it is their responsibility...

As you all can see I'm a total noob when it comes to plants, and I hate being ripped off... But fish? Now that's a whole other thing... ;D

Thanks again. I'll post some new pics later for ID's.

[azurekoi]

As a vetran of slogging away behind banks and banks of aquariums in LFS's across the country,I can tell you that yes,most LFS owners passion does not lie with a planted aquarium.... In fact I know od one LFS (in a tiny town in the Western Cape) that I would call a plant guru... Partly their fault and partly the presures of running a business...

My experience of the industry however allows me to lie the blame squarely at the feet of the suppliers(not cool Dudes like Altum btw) - only supplying "mixed potted plants to the LFs that is mostly non aquatics....

[Skye01]

I have plenty of opinions regarding the whole lfs thing, but that is going off topic and I could carry on for a long time...:amuse:

[windfire]

Skye01 i got caught by the fern as well i was so chuffed when i got it only to have it start melting on me soon after, its a stream verge or bog plant in its natural enviroment and does get seasonal flooding but doesnt live permanently underwater. it is horrible the way lfs stock non aquatics and its the reason planted tanks have such a bad rep imo

[Sean J]

Not for long!! :p

I think the problem lies with us, to be brutally honest. It's not the LFS's fault entirely. If it wasn't for people that didn't do their homework first, then the whole thing would not be an issue. If you knew what you were looking for, and then went to the stores to look for it, then the non aquatic plants would not get sold, the pet stores would stop ordering them because they would just sit and rot in their tanks.

But i mean, there is also the flip side... If the LFS's knew what they were ordering, there wouldn't be non aquatic plants in the tanks... It is a double edged sword I guess... But these things are soon to start changing. The more people who get into the planted tank hobby, the better for the retailers too. As long as the correct things are put up for sale, then the problem will eventually start phasing out. Isn't this the point of the sponsors on this board?

[Skye01]

windfire, Sean J, I agree with both of you. Yes Sean, I agree with your anology on the whole thing, it's basically my feeling on the matter too.

More of my plants that need ID's please...

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The next one please...

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I think this is some form of Crypt, but I have no idea which one...

[Skye01]

Here are a couple more I need help with...

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A form of Amazon Sword maybe...?

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Lizid, this is one of the plants that you kindly donated, but I remember you saying that you weren't too sure what it is.

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Another Amazon Sword perhaps?

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A different variety of Amazon perhaps?

TIA

[Skye01]

Here are more...

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I thought maybe an Amazon or crypt???

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Don't have a clue, but as you can see there are a whole lot of shoots coming out of the "root ball"...

[shihr]

second one should be aponogeton crispus

[Skye01]

shihr, the 2nd one in which post, please? Thank you for the help...

[shihr]

this one:

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/attachment.php?attachmentid=11724&d=1321616902

[Skye01]

Thanks shihr, one down lots still to go...:(

[Lizid]

Kim the one you got from me I got from wearsbunnyslippers maybe he can help I was under the impresion it was a Sword of some sort...

[Skye01]

Thanks Grant, I will wait until he replies to your "poke".

[azurekoi]

@Skye01 (http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/member.php?u=2229) - here's my take on them:

Plant no 1 - "Purple Waffle" an Hemigraphis type - unfortunately not an aquatic - melts in a month or so...

plant no 2 - disagree with @shihr (http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/member.php?u=1054) - Looks more like Cryptocoryne balansae to me....Give it lots of space - grows huge,though slowly - one of my favourite Crypts

plant 3 - To small to tell...maybe some form of Sagitarius...

plant 4 - Some type of Echinodorus...

plant 5 - Echinodorus parvifolius

plant 6 - Looks like Echinodorus bleheri - changing over from emersed to submerged form

plant 7 - Aponogeton ulvaceus.

plant 8 - Eish - some type of Echinodorus ??? Maybe "Red Rubin"?

[Skye01]

azurekoi, thanks for that I can at least go and look them up... :bigsmile: The question I have is about the purple one... I thought that non-aquatic plants did not grow roots from the nodes, is this true?

[azurekoi]

That is too much of a generalisation to be true...Think of Hygrophila polysperma - that roots freely from the nodes....

[Skye01]

Hmmm, ok point taken thanks.

[shihr]

Ya azurekoi.. Think ur right.. Sorry pic on phone is diff from pic on pc:p

[A Bauer]

Skye01 please empty your inbox - trying to pm you