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So i had to say bye to my oscars and aro as my tank is to small for them.
I initially got the tank for these guys:
Brichardi
tropheus duboisi
and moliro
Leleupi
I used my existing java moss, fern and rocks as previous setup.
Had them for a month now very small so coudnt get nice pics.
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SalmonAfrica
10-11-2011, 18:17
Nice :) I've found cichlids, especially those from Malawi and Tanganyika, to be rather difficult to get photos of - they just never stop moving! Not really a bad thing though; I've always loved tanks that are bustling with activity :)
Thanks man. ya great to watch them always so busy
Don't want to be the one to put a damper on things..but what are you going2 feed your fish?tropheus duboisi n moliro need an algae based diet...if u fEed them bits n bloodworm they won't last long.that's why they best kept on their own..and in big numbers
Yes i know the tropheus do better in larger groups and not a community tank.(species only tank) i have done research and i feed them a Spirulina-based flake food . and also lettuce
oscar freak
11-11-2011, 07:11
eventually lol thank you.u werent lying when u said it takes bad photos ha ha but i feel your pain.nice rockwork you got going on,what are the spotted ones they look nice?
lol ya i think its coz the tank is visible both sides. Thanks im hoping the moss covers most of it. Spotted guys are Duboisi which loses it spots and develops a blue head with a vertical yellow or white band when they get older
oscar freak
11-11-2011, 07:30
oh ok like in the avatar?
yep that's right. the moliro changes to red
oscar freak
11-11-2011, 08:26
how are you changing the ph?
Frequent water changes every 2nd or third day about 10%. seems to be doing it.
oscar freak
11-11-2011, 08:42
but is your tap water not soft.
Reedfish
11-11-2011, 08:51
Very nice.
Will be interesting to see what the Tropheus look like when they are adults.
haven't tested water from the tap yet. I add in salt cant remember the name .
Very nice.Will be interesting to see what the Tropheus look like when they are adults.thanks . Will be interesting and exciting...I'l post pics as they grow just need to get a decent camera lol
oscar freak
11-11-2011, 09:15
i was wondering cause you'll people in cape town have the opposite problem of us here in jhb when it comes to ph,we would like to drop it for the south americans and you would like raise it for the malawians.now i hear you can add shells and the like like we would add peat moss,which i do but seems to make no difference to my readings(note to self try increasing the peat moss amount)but then when i do a water change its straight from the tap so to speak so any drops in ph would be negated by the new water.just wondering the effects of shells on soft water is it longer lasting on the system even with water changes from a soft source?
I have read that some rocks and shells can raise the pH . Wood can lower the pH as well i think and Good aeration also good for pH to be kept up (less carbon dioxide ). The water changes i do is from siphoning all uneaten food which can cause pH to drop. Maybe i should add some shells in the filter or crushed coral...
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What do you guys think?
:cool:
oscar freak
28-11-2011, 07:18
Very nice,i see you took my advice:p
yep :)
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jmannells
11-01-2012, 08:50
Tank is looking good!
Nice tank man. I was thinking of adding some ferns to my setup as well. Just a tip, rather add a few more trophs or you going to end up with a few issues. You want to end up with at least 10. I find 15 is a good number to start with, this gives room to pick out a few extra males or mother nature will remove them for you. It was difficult to see in the pics but it looks like you have a handful of them? If you dont, you probably going to end up with 1 tropheus in that tank. When they reach around 8cm there evil side comes out.
Also, rather skip the lettuce. It has a very low nutritional value. Try spinnach, takes a while to get them to take it but once they do they go crazy for the stuff. If there is anything you unsure of with the trophs you welcome to pm me. I've killed them and bred them ; 0 Hopefully I can help you avoid the first one. They are not very forgiving but if you do things right from the beginning it's really down hill from there.
Thanks guys.
Verndog thanks for the info. I lost all the duboisi already the moliro killed them all . Only have 2 moliro don't know what to do with them now seem fine though for now. The lfs where i purchased them from only had the 2 left...i don't see them often else would of gotten more but then again would have to have a species only tank. Are garden peas okay to feed?
Verndog thanks for the info. I lost all the duboisi already the moliro killed them all
Gee, that was quick... Moliro are one the more agressive Trophs.
Only have 2 moliro don't know what to do with them now seem fine though for now
If I were you I would take them back to the LFS. Rather get 10 or more Duboisi's if you keen on Trophs, if not get some Julidochromis. Also from the lake, very hardy.Very cool fish. Trophs are considered very agro as a whole, moliro are considered very agro for trophs! If you keep them you will land up with problems. They do better in very large tanks.
Im sure the LFS will be able to order some Jullies for you.
The lfs where i purchased them from only had the 2 left...i don't see them often else would of gotten more but then again would have to have a species only tank.
That is usually the case. Allot of LFS just pick from the list and dont really know what they are buying. They see Trophs as a "rare" african cichlid suitable for any mixed malawi tank...
Are garden peas okay to feed?
Peas are great. Mine dont eat them if they have skin on so I give them a skip... Im not going to peal peas for fussy fish ; )
okay then il sell or take them back :(. Il keep the frontosa , my pair of brichardi and single leleuipi. Not really a fan of jullies but will see.
Tropheus will be my future setup if i get another tank
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oscar freak
03-02-2012, 07:26
shoo dis mooi
keith1964
03-02-2012, 07:31
Must warn you remove your brichardi's once they form a breeding colony they will attack anything as big as a frontosas. From my experience I witness this onslaught. Brichardi's like the frozen foods where tropheus death trap. Leleupis and brichardis same diet but do not keep them together. Leleupi also very aggressive when spawning time.
Brichardis needs lots of tank space, I had them in my 2m tank and space was insufficient. Tropheus like there algea so I generated algea inside my tank by added a little spuralina powder.
I had a Tanganyikan community tanks but I was a nightmare having so many different species of Tanganyikans. Eventually the fry from the various species moved over to each others nest and got raised by other parents.
One word of warning once brichardis start spawning it is very difficult to stop them as they go all of the tank looking for nesting sites. I had 12 adults and within a couple of months 10000's of fry all over the tank and the rest of the tank species all swimming around fighting for their life to survive.
Reedfish
03-02-2012, 09:19
Agree with @Keith. It is really tricky to get the right combination.
I was going to set up a Tang tank. But after doing my research, I thought it was going to be too difficult to get the right mix of fish.
Especially since I had just packed in my Malawis.
thanks Oscar freak.
lol very true keith i need a breeding tank for them. leleupi is alone with 7 frontosa.
I dont have any tropheus left gave them back to lfs. Its hard to form a Tang community without conflict.
keith1964
03-02-2012, 14:47
My 2m community tank had the following:
Frontosas - sold them
Tropheus - duboisis, milliro & ikolis must keep these buggers in large groups
marlieri (dickfeldi & marlieri does not get along whenever my dickfeldi's bred they would raid their nest although the dickfeldi had a good nesting sight they would find there way into the cave); dickfeldi and transcriptus gets on but only opposite like male & female, their fry use to cross caves and get raised by other parents). Transcriptus was clever when decided which cave to use, I had stacked lots of black slate rock of the one corner of the tank with very narrow grooves to move around and this became a baby making area. This parent would attack anything that would come near this pile of rocks. I had tons of fry from different batches of spawns. Usually they would all disappear but then later when feeding I would see this black swarm of fry grabbing any feed particles floating pass this pile of rocks.
Brichardis and Leleupis are not a good match but had multiple spawns. I had my brichardi adults rearing my leleupi fry but the older sibbling could sense that they are not brichardi but the parents were not worried.
My tank was loaded with rocks especially the oval shape and lots of ceramic flower pot plants which the leleupis adored.
I had 1.2m just with shelldwellers multies only hundreds.
I really miss these buggers thinking back really puts a lump in my throat.
I had them for 3 years and most of my fish I bought where juveniles so the first year was creating caves and keeping potential pairing partners. But now I going into bettas like these fish.
Wish I could have a 2m tank. I don't find julies that interesting. I had larger fronts regret selling them atleast i get to watch them grow now...
I think when i rescape il add in some more slate.
Sounds like you had some time breeding them. Every1 seems to be going into bettas these days
Full tank Update shot
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