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mullet
31-10-2011, 12:13
I have a 4 tube 39w pendant over my community tank and am looking to replace the lighting as i have introduced a lot more plants.
I am leaning towards the Hagen Glo T5, what would be the best mix of tube, 4 x AquaGlo or 2 x AquaGlo, 1 x SunGlo & 1 x MarineGlo.
can anyone give me some advice on this topic.

neilh
31-10-2011, 12:38
As a matter of interest, how much are you being charged for those tubes?

boebie
31-10-2011, 13:32
Don't waste your dosh on these expensive tubes, if you want grow plants. Rather go to an electrical/lighting shop and get some daylight 6500k tubes.

oscar freak
31-10-2011, 13:38
Don't waste your dosh on these expensive tubes, if you want grow plants. Rather go to an electrical/lighting shop and get some daylight 6500k tubes.

i just did and saved myselft literally a R1000

mullet
31-10-2011, 14:30
As a matter of interest, how much are you being charged for those tubes?

neilh
31-10-2011, 15:01
Pretty much what I was getting at before @beobie snuck in :blink1:

39w DL tube shouldn't cost you more than about 70-80 bucks from lighting suppliers/shops. Sylvania GroLux should be about 120 per tube

mullet
31-10-2011, 20:22
Just to check guys - we are talking T5 tubes and not T8 ??????

boebie
01-11-2011, 10:26
Yip try Lamphouse.

scotty
31-12-2011, 21:46
All very well to go and buy those ordinary lights but how much algae growth do you have? I use them as I want growth of algae for my Malawis.

Big G
01-01-2012, 07:43
If you want growth of algae, you could change out some 6500k tubes for 10000k tubes. That should help produce more algae.

Still though, it will be much cheaper to get these from an electrical place, rather than from the LFS. You do not need the 'special' tubes that are sold at the LFS. The cheaper sylvania, Osram and phillips tubes will be more than fine, as long as they are the correct rating for the ballast. So, just go ask for a 39w T5 10000 k tube, and see what they offer you? Its worth sticking to a manufacturer like I mentioned above though, and not some unknown chinese make, as some of these very cheap tubes do not give the full lumens output that a tube like that should give. I use Osram tubes and got them for a rediculous price. Well worth it!

Cheers
G!

jpvd007
01-01-2012, 08:11
I priced T5's at my local lighting shop last week and they were + - R60 the fittings were out of stock thou. the LPS are a rip off !!!!

Valenshki
25-02-2012, 08:26
Out of interest, when buying T5 tubes from a place like lamphouse or other lighting wholesalers, Is one 6500k light the same as another 6500K light with regards to their nanometer scale to achieve that kelvin temperature rating????? cause surely there must be more than one way to combine wavelengths to achieve the same kelvin rating? With the Haegen Glo lights the nanometer scale is generally on the box for one to see, but I'm not sure if this is provided with the 6500K bulbs from wholesalers etc.

any input?

rudig
12-04-2012, 17:02
Out of interest, when buying T5 tubes from a place like lamphouse or other lighting wholesalers, Is one 6500k light the same as another 6500K light with regards to their nanometer scale to achieve that kelvin temperature rating????? cause surely there must be more than one way to combine wavelengths to achieve the same kelvin rating? With the Haegen Glo lights the nanometer scale is generally on the box for one to see, but I'm not sure if this is provided with the 6500K bulbs from wholesalers etc.

any input?






Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I would also like to know whether there is more to look for in lights than the Kelvin temp. Getting lights for my planted tank soon and don't want to buy the wrong or sub-optimal tubes for my plants.

morris
13-04-2012, 00:48
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I would also like to know whether there is more to look for in lights than the Kelvin temp. Getting lights for my planted tank soon and don't want to buy the wrong or sub-optimal tubes for my plants.

Yes there is, the only quick way to see if a tube is abit better than the other is to have a look at the colour rendering index. When you buy a t5 tube, it usually says 865, ok now the 65 stands for the Kelvin rating, obviosly 6500K,...now the 8 infront of the 65 is the CRI, its better to go for a higher CRI as this means it is closer to actual daylight colour. There are tubes that is daylight's @ 965, but the highest CRI tubes we get in SA only goes up to 80% - 90%, thus being 865

T5's
880 - Skywhite with 8000K rating (appears abit more white than daylights)
865 - Daylight with 6500K rating (daylight tube)
840 - Warm white with 4000K rating (more of a red tinge to it)
Growlux - They dont give stats on the K rating anywhere, but alot redder than even your warm whites.

Go with a combination of 880, 865 and growlux's, if you dont want to pay R250+ for lights.
And Lamphouse stocks all of these tubes in 24w, 36w, 54w

rudig
13-04-2012, 13:24
morris! You beaut! Thanks for that summary!

morris
13-04-2012, 15:40
Cool, no problem

Lizid
13-04-2012, 15:59
morris any ideas on the price of these lights... I am preping to put in my 4ft, this will give me 4x T5's and 3x T8's, (just cause they are there)...This with my Co2 and massive Eheim and built in Filter... this tanks gonna look awesome...

morris
13-04-2012, 16:02
Lizid, i assume you installing 54w T5's
Price wise the 865 you will be looking at around R80 a pop, the 880 abit more, maybe R100 or so
Growluxes are abit more at around R130 a light

Lizid
13-04-2012, 16:04
morris no the 54w's are too long, lol... but I have an idea now... ps you have a PM...

morris
13-04-2012, 16:09
Cool, I am sure the 39w tubes will be abit less.
I just thought, cause you were talking about a 4 foot, I assumed you will use 54w.........and the 3 t8's. That would have been a hell of alot of light

Lizid
13-04-2012, 16:13
yes it is a lot of light... I have the option of not using the T8's....

The problem with the 54w, is the the canopy is molded so I am limited to the standard size's but I will open it up this weekend and see what I can do...

gdt78
13-04-2012, 21:44
Lizid,

You will be able to easily fit 4x 39w T5's as I have recently installed it in my 3foot.

Lizid
14-04-2012, 08:02
Hi there gdt78 i have 2 39w in the 3ft at the moment, and they are slightly out side of the lid, the 39w should fit the 4ft perfectly

wrenchy
14-04-2012, 09:29
hey guys

I literally no minimal about lighting and this thread has helped understand a bit to what i want, just wondering do i need to get separate ballasts for each light?? im building a 303litre tank and obviously want to put more than 1 light. been advised to go t5, the transformer thingy , can it support more than 1 light?? or do i have to buy 1 for each light??

Lizid
14-04-2012, 10:32
hey guys

I literally no minimal about lighting and this thread has helped understand a bit to what i want, just wondering do i need to get separate ballasts for each light?? im building a 303litre tank and obviously want to put more than 1 light. been advised to go t5, the transformer thingy , can it support more than 1 light?? or do i have to buy 1 for each light??

Hey there, some ballasts have more than one fitting, I have two here that takes 2 gloves each, I think the more expensive ones take more and the cheaper ones take one but don't quote me on that...

wrenchy
14-04-2012, 13:40
Lizid thanks a million!! yea will prob need quite a few lights my soon to be tank is 60.8cm wide x 86.2cm long x 58 cm high