View Full Version : New Very Large Tank :-)
dangerousd
09-09-2010, 21:44
Firstly thanks to Donny for the NEW tank.... :-)
and Guido for transporting and giving me great advice.
TANK SIZE 1,8 x 800 x 800
SUMP = 182L
TANK = 1152L
Combined = 1334L
So here goes the idea with progress pictures below (Should be an Interesting build)
1) Position the tank in Place in the garage (will be its final resting place with a twist)
2) remove paint from back of tank as this is going to be an in the wall tank - looking through from the kitchen.
3) Clean Tank, fittings & Fixtures - re silicone the plumbing for the sump (it has an in and out hole)
4) Do a test fill / check for leaks
5) Coming soon ... Cut Hole through wall into Kitchen - if you look at the picture below you will see the big red block will be cut out and inside that wall is my kitchen... (Guido please help)
6) Install Lintel and Move tank into wall cavity - The sump and stand will then sit in the garage
Looks like a mess so far - but watch this space!!!
guido.coza
09-09-2010, 22:01
Hi D
Great pleasure!!! (-:
Will pop by, maybe even tomorrow to have a quick look at the wall and tank
Remember that you have to change the stand slighty, ( new wholes and shortened metal frame).
I guess you tested the "plumbing" silicon and its all fine and no leaks:eek:
Looks like it is going to be very interesting.
dangerousd
09-09-2010, 22:28
That would be great - give me a sms or call....
and you won't believe I tightened the plumbing slightly on the right and NOW no leaks only using those washers
Put 5 cm of water in on Sunday and has not lost a drop :-)
BUT I think I'm going to silicone anyway - I think safer in the long run....
Hi D
Great pleasure!!! (-:
Will pop by, maybe even tomorrow to have a quick look at the wall and tank
Remember that you have to change the stand slighty, ( new wholes and shortened metal frame).
I guess you tested the "plumbing" silicon and its all fine and no leaks:eek:
guido.coza
09-09-2010, 22:35
I think you can start to put a add in gumtree to swop you car for a bakkie, b4 you start to collect the sand and drift wood for that mini pool:blink1:
dangerousd
09-09-2010, 23:03
Trade this in... you crazy - It can pull bakkie and trailer at the same time :-)
cheddar254
10-09-2010, 06:44
wow this setup is going to get more replies than that other 1.8 m tank :0, nice tank btw oh and car! dam! :D
This will be a super thread to follow. Being the builder... I'm looking forward to seeing the part where you knock the hole in the wall. That's always the "fun" part... and putting in that lintel.
Um... I've got some "bad" news for you. When you put a lintel in... I'm assuming it's a 2.1m lintel... you need to prop it in the middle to hold it up whilst the dagga dries. The "bad" news is you should prop it for 14 days... but because you not building above the lintel, prop it for 7 days. Then plaster. (If you remove the prop too early, you stand the chance of cracks between the new lintel and existing brickwork.
Yes... I also wouldn't trade that car in for a bakkie. (Unless maybe the new chevvy bakkie! which I personally saw take a subaru apart on the drag straight last year! HEHE)
I know this is a bit off topic- but I'm sure a lot of the other members would be interested too... what it the reason behind every Subaru Owner spoiling their absolutely magnificent car with all those vinyls? Does it make the car faster? Does it make the driver feel like a racing car driver? Or is it just the Subaru Culture?
Regards
dangerousd
10-09-2010, 08:57
This will be a super thread to follow. Being the builder... I'm looking forward to seeing the part where you knock the hole in the wall. That's always the "fun" part... and putting in that lintel.
Yes... I also wouldn't trade that car in for a bakkie. (Unless maybe the new chevvy bakkie! which I personally saw take a subaru apart on the drag straight last year! HEHE)
I know this is a bit off topic- but I'm sure a lot of the other members would be interested too... what it the reason behind every Subaru Owner spoiling their absolutely magnificent car with all those vinyls? Does it make the car faster? Does it make the driver feel like a racing car driver? Or is it just the Subaru Culture?
Regards
Lol and Lol...
Ok here goes - Luckily Guido (not only a ZOO keeper but also built half my house - did a custom lintel for my garage - spans 5 meters (so I thnk we can handle 2 m :-)
For the car - Not sure if people will understand this - but I'm just having a laugh... (and not to forget my car is pretty pimped out - upgraded etc etc etc )
Kids love the stickers - they thinks it's playsattion in real life!
Anyone part of the Scooby Club?
Not that big a fan of Scooby Doo because I know its not the dogs real voice :D
I always thought subarus came with the stickers...
Watching this thread. I'm planning on doing a 2m x 600 x 600, much less water volume though.
dangerousd
10-09-2010, 09:16
I always thought subarus came with the stickers...
Watching this thread. I'm planning on doing a 2m x 600 x 600, much less water volume though.
Bit of a competition we have now? :bigsmile:
Hey DangerousD , only a pleasure will watch this thread closely :), when its done would still like to come see it if possible.
Not really. Henk's tank is probably closer in size to yours. 2.5 x 800 x 800.
TroyFish
10-09-2010, 09:19
What type of set up are you going with?
I must say, this has got me thinking....I Better stop! Wait until i have my own place....lol
cant wait for the end results! Watching this one!
dangerousd
10-09-2010, 09:38
What type of set up are you going with?
Going with a Community Tank ...
Would like lots of things to play with... hopefully have some fish pair off and breed without even knowing :-)
I know it's a but Cliché - But going to follow this design... anyone guess who's tank this is?
Your tank is going to look Awesome , a real show peace.
I will guess quido?
Will look awesome.
TroyFish
10-09-2010, 09:47
I have no idea. But i was dum enough to use google lol. Searched "ttt.jpg" and clicked the 1st one....luckly no one was looking lol.
dangerousd
10-09-2010, 09:49
Lol and Lol.... Guido wishes he's goood but not that good
Takashi Amano !
Cropped the pic :cool:
dudes, if u ever get the chance, google MR Takashi Amano's setups!! defn my hero :P hehe
and if u manage to get this tank to look like Mr Amano's tank.... i wont know what to say!! hehe
those plants in that tank are pretty low maintenance plants though.. so if u go that route, it'll defn be easier on the maintenance:)
i think the mainpoint on that tank was the scape and size of everything..
Fishman01
10-09-2010, 16:48
[QUOTE=shihr;72421]dudes, if u ever get the chance, google MR Takashi Amano's setups!! defn my hero :P hehe
With u there Boet, the man is a genius
Will watch this one very close - going to be awesome.:proud: Nice work D
Would like to see what happens if you take someone like Amano to one of our LPS and ask him to do a scape with what he find in the LPS :)
The man do have talent though.
Would like to see what happens if you take someone like Amano to one of our LPS and ask him to do a scape with what he find in the LPS :)
The man do have talent though.
You know what Vis, he will probably shock us. It's not what you can't get at an LPS store. It's about using your imagination with what you CAN get.
Ferryman
10-09-2010, 20:30
dogs, birds, fish and vallis. :)
Keshen Singh
05-10-2010, 15:58
Dangerousd any updates and pics off your new tank??
dangerousd
12-10-2010, 14:48
OK so quick update....
Here goes for a quick update on the tank.... seems like step 3 and 4 are taking a pretty long time!!!
3) Clean Tank, fittings & Fixtures - re silicone the plumbing for the sump (it has an in and out hole)
a) Cleaned the tank and re siliconed the plumbing
b) Found out that the support braces only allowed the tank to be filled like 70% because the braces are directly above the sump plumbing - so had to use a basin curve plumbing bit to go round the the brace (worked out ok I think)
c ) Some of the plumbing was white some blue - so I painted it all black with pond paint - looks better I think!
4) Do a test fill / check for leaks / Check sump / install spray bars / test again / test again
a) Filled the tank - all seemed ok ...
b) Connected the pump and split the water flow (cause I want to do 2 return spray bars - 1 at the bottom of the tank to stop debris from settling - 1 at the top as per normal
c) Realized the side glass of the sump broke while I was placing in the cabinet....
2 FIXES I have had to do so far
1) replace the glass sump with 3 plastic tubs
2) where I joined the plumbing there is a small leak somewhere - need to tighten all the fixtures (or maybe another coat of pond paint to seal) OR Both
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5) Coming soon ... Cut Hole through wall into Kitchen - if you look at the picture below you will see the big red block will be cut out and inside that wall is my kitchen... (Guido please help)
6) Install Lintel and Move tank into wall cavity - The sump and stand will then sit in the garage
PICTURE - plumbing top
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4873.jpg
PICTURE - plumbing bottom
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4874.jpg
PICTURE - Why I could not go all the way to the top - casue brace is in the way
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4884.jpg
PICTURE - Curve I used
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4883.jpg
PICTURE - PLUMBING painted black
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4886.jpg
PICTURE - SUMP inlet
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4888.jpg
PICTURE - Inlet - outlet
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4889.jpg
PICTURE - SUMP (now repaced with plastic - will post new pic)
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4898.jpg
PICTURE - TEST FILL
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4897.jpg
PICTURE - idea for spray bar - will paint black as well
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4896.jpg
PICTURE - Split water flow
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4899.jpg
PICTURES - playing with some design ideas
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4900.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4902.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_4903.jpg
TroyFish
12-10-2010, 14:53
Looking good!
dangerousd
12-10-2010, 14:58
Looking good!
Big tank = big work
- looks a little crazy at the moment - but hopefully will all come together
Looking good, are you going to replace the styrofoam with a solid peace ?
Keshen Singh
12-10-2010, 15:17
tank looking good, what wood do you have in there?
dangerousd
12-10-2010, 15:25
Looking good, are you going to replace the styrofoam with a solid peace ?
Hey Donny... will definitely get another piece - jus using your piece for now -
When I push the tank into the wall it will sit half on the stand and half on the wall - so will swop it out then - :-)
looking good will be nice to see this beaut with the livestock in
dangerousd
12-10-2010, 15:32
tank looking good, what wood do you have in there?
Hmmm- not actually sure - found it just outside my house on my neighbours pavement (like a bush that had grown been cut back - then died)
It has a cool shape!
Where do you get massive pieces of drift wood from - I like the shape of that piece - here are some more views (soaking in my pool)
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_8535.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_8534.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo153/dangerousd1977/Large%20Tank/IMG_8533.jpg
TroyFish
12-10-2010, 15:36
Good idea to soak it in a pool?
Our pool is on a chlorinator and have thought about soaking my wood in there. Wasn't sure if it was a good idea though...
Good idea to soak it in a pool?
Our pool is on a chlorinator and have thought about soaking my wood in there. Wasn't sure if it was a good idea though...
I would also love to know if you can soak it in a pool, would save so much hassle.... ive heard you can soak it in the pool for the most part but then ensure you soak it in fresh / dechlorinated water before putting it in your tank.... would like confirmation though as ive never tried !
dangerousd
12-10-2010, 15:55
Good idea to soak it in a pool?
Our pool is on a chlorinator and have thought about soaking my wood in there. Wasn't sure if it was a good idea though...
Not 100% sure it's a good idea - But also left it out on the deck for 2 weeks after that in the CT rain / wind and sun...
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looking good will be nice to see this beaut with the livestock in
Can't wait to start stocking ... was thinking proper old school community tank
50 Cardinal Tetras
10 Congo Teras
20 Ruby Tetras
20 Silvertip Tetras
20 Black Neon Tetras
20 Bleeding HeartTetras
30 Rummynose Tetras
Maybe some Rams
what else goes well in a community tank?
Has anyone ever kept Silver Dollars? can you keep the with tetras? are they cool fish?
Hey Donny... will definitely get another piece - jus using your piece for now -
When I push the tank into the wall it will sit half on the stand and half on the wall - so will swop it out then - :-)
OK, so between stand and wall you going to have a 20mm peace of wood then stryrofoam
TroyFish
12-10-2010, 16:00
If you going the planted way then silver dollars should be left out
dangerousd
12-10-2010, 16:09
OK, so between stand and wall you going to have a 20mm peace of wood then stryrofoam
Yip 100%... Wood then Styrofoam - and like you said get it 100% level
Ok :) .... dam its going to look awesome... pls keep the pics coming are you going to have the uprights on the garage side of the tank?
dangerousd
12-10-2010, 16:47
Ok :) .... dam its going to look awesome... pls keep the pics coming are you going to have the uprights on the garage side of the tank?
EXACTLY .... so bascially "in my mind" going to swing the whole tank around so it's facing the wall - then push it into the cavity (should be fun)
So the inside wall will look something like this : (but not marine)
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AWESOME its going to be a real show peace . :) :)
Goodisor
14-10-2010, 20:47
That is going to look absolutely fantastic. Keep the pics going.
dangerousd
19-10-2010, 14:30
:mad::sick::eek:... ALL at once
CAUSE the Bottom of the tank cracked :-(
Can't believe it - was working on the tank at night adding the final touches - spray bar / last coat of paint on plumbing and I had a spot light hanginng inside the tank so I could see... AND the hea tfrom the light actaully cracked the tank 0 can't believe it !!!
NOW - how do I FIX this ADVISE PLEASE??
IS it possible to remove the whole bottom piece and just replace?
ASk a pro? my LPS does tank building
OR break it apart build the rest of the tank our of concrete and just use 1 piece as a front of the glass / viewig section?
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oh no.. well i have heard ppl using another piece of glass at the bottom (same size as the bottom piece glued with silicone).. to "seal" the crack..silicone is aplied to the crack and around the glass.. but those were small tanks and given the size of ur tank.. i dono if that'll help..
sorry man
Singularity
19-10-2010, 14:49
to be on the safe side i would rather replace that base.
Dam. :( :( .... agree with Singularity due to size. I would replace the bottom.
take it to a tank builder and they should be able to sort u out with a new base and a rebuild..
dangerousd
19-10-2010, 15:08
I think replace is KEY .... as the weight is already rather heavy....
My other debate is should I go with drilled sump holes again in the bottom
That is where the weak spot was....
and with no holes they can brace right to the ends - the current was braced just up to the hole - hmmmm
Personally would rather get tank builder to come out to you and rebuild it were it must stand.
If you get a base that is drilled again , get then to place a peace of glass around the hole that is also drilled, therefore also braced.
u could use a overflow rather?
DangerousD... where are you based? If you anywhere near Honeydew, I can give you a contact of a tank builder who actually might be prepared to come to your house and do the repair at your house for you if the tank is too big to take to him.
dangerousd
19-10-2010, 16:13
DangerousD... where are you based? If you anywhere near Honeydew, I can give you a contact of a tank builder who actually might be prepared to come to your house and do the repair at your house for you if the tank is too big to take to him.
Hey Zoom thanks - BUT - Used to live in Fourways - Now in CT - Hout Bay side
I know Sams Constantia actually built this tank in the begining... so maybe take it back to them...?
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Anpther question is - how difficult would it be to do it myself....
Get the exact size of galss cut + some braces .... remove the base and silicone the new piece on
I have done it before with my 250l tank - was not so hard
(not sure with big tank)
Singularity
20-10-2010, 13:40
Just make sure when you drill the hole that for instance it is a 50mm hole it should be ATLEAST 50mm away from the sides of the glass (if that makes sense)
dangerousd
20-10-2010, 16:47
Just make sure when you drill the hole that for instance it is a 50mm hole it should be ATLEAST 50mm away from the sides of the glass (if that makes sense)
Cool -thnaks for heads up.... Now I'm over my HUMP of the crack - have got my arse in gear and ready to repair it! MYSELF eeeek
Best of luck, feel K*K that the tank cracked.
dangerousd
20-10-2010, 17:43
Best of luck, feel K*K that the tank cracked.
No stress - it's me - finddle way to much (3rd tank I've cracked) LOL
:) well best on luck getting it fixed and braced so it will never happen again.
spock rider
21-10-2010, 00:07
I take my hat of to you sir, you obviously have a very patient wife!
Good for you!
Keep it going!
Your tank can be fixed by placing another piece of 10mm glass on top af the base. What I would do is to get a piece of glass cut to fit inside on the base and about 500mm long, clean out the old silicone properly and then use Bostik Marine silicon to stick the new piece on the base.
I think the reason why the base cracked in the first place was because of the long stand pipe. I would biuld in an overflow box which is much safer if anything like that should happen again.
just be carefull if u attempt a diy tank.. look what happened to this guy when he did his.. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/diy/13669-diy-all-glass-tank-ada-style-18.html it wasnt even that big but there was alot of pain and fustration..
maybe read through and see if he went through anything that you could learn from..just incase?
mydummyname
21-10-2010, 15:05
i would replace the entire base with TWO sheets of glass cut to the exact same size... if of course i could cut glass, or build tanks in the first place heheeheheee
seriously tho.. use two sheets of 10mm or 12mm glass completely stuck together with silicone.. it will be worth the peace of mind dude..
With a project of this size I wouldn't cut corners. Rather go all out. If it was 10mm glass before, go for 12mm, braced all round, and use an overflow instead of drilled glass. You even get some really nice hang on overflows if you want to keep the look clean. Kudos for taking on the Amano scape, I'd love to do that! Oh, and don't forget that Mr Amano has Angels in that tank of his, and they're a brilliant showpiece. If you're stocking tetras you'd most likely want to avoid angels though, and get 5, 7, or 9 Clown Loaches. They'll make the tank so much livelier! Oh, and I can't say it enough, get a good cleanup crew! That means some Otocinclus for the algae, and Corydoras for the substrate. I'd say you'll need about 12 Otos for a tank that size.
dangerousd
26-10-2010, 11:05
just be carefull if u attempt a diy tank.. look what happened to this guy when he did his.. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/diy/13669-diy-all-glass-tank-ada-style-18.html it wasnt even that big but there was alot of pain and fustration..
maybe read through and see if he went through anything that you could learn from..just incase?
LOL - this happened to me twice with me 250l tank... I think I'm going to get SAMS - my lPS to come out and replace / brace for me - DONE!
good decision.. otherwise u'll be like that dude doing the "anti tank leak ritual" :P saves time, fustration even money IMO
dangerousd
26-10-2010, 11:33
Youknow what the worst thing is .... the crack actaully happened from me using that Bloody Spot light inside the tank...
It gets so bloody hot it cracked the tank... So only myself to blame
brings me back to the question why we can use better / stronger glass to build tanks?
brings me back to the question why we can use better / stronger glass to build tanks?
can or can't?
cant because of the price factor.. i just built my 1.2m without braces 1cm thick glass cost me a small fortune.. standard ones are like half the price
dangerousd
26-10-2010, 12:08
can or can't?
cant because of the price factor.. i just built my 1.2m without braces 1cm thick glass cost me a small fortune.. standard ones are like half the price
that sounds cool... would like to see a picture of that? Suppose you right all about cost in the end
You can do whatever you can afford :-)
http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?5527-122lx60bx45h well here it is..
dangerousd
26-10-2010, 12:44
http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?5527-122lx60bx45h well here it is..
WOW - looks awsome - nice job
How's it conig along?
I also love the open top look.... I think it becasue I like to stick my hand in all the time and fiddle
haha.. me too.. but im expecting majour evaporation issues..
well i just got it.. i have to move around furniture and build a cabinet b4 i can do anything.. also going to make a internal filter.. ok, im rambling cos im excited.. but to answer ur question, i havnt done anything about it yet but dream :P but for sure in a few wks time i will
dangerousd
29-11-2010, 12:28
OK so here is my DIY attemtp to FIX a broken tank ..... all seems good so far
I used 4 pieces of 12mm glass to cover brace and brace an brace!!! I actaully think it's stroger than before :-)
Cost me R400 and only about an hour of work
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Looking good how long has it been full for?
dangerousd
29-11-2010, 12:42
Looking good how long has it been full for?
3 days now.... :-) seems to be all good
Really trying to stress it - cause next step is cutting a hole in the wall....
ok excellent, best of luck hope nothing else goes wrong, keep the pics coming :)
wow! thats looking great!! but i agree with donny.. hope its well tested b4 u bring it into the house.. that amount of water on the floor is not pleasant :P
dangerousd
29-11-2010, 13:35
Question - Do you think I could use 2 of my smaller KOI to cycle the tank?
Could work, but they not as tuff as goldfish.
dangerousd
29-11-2010, 14:20
Could work, but they not as tuff as goldfish.
My test goldfish I had for over a year now got eaten by a heron last week.... :-( - I'll give the koi a try if they survived my pond they should be strong!
Dam that is not cool.
Got any pics of the fixing process and spray bars
dangerousd
29-11-2010, 14:26
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SOME QUICK PICS OF THE REPAIR - you can see actaulyl how big the tank is here......
Have you replaced the styrofoam with one solid peace yet ?
dangerousd
29-11-2010, 14:34
this shows the fix..... grey is all exsisting tank
RED is new glass pieces (All 12mm) 2 big pieces that baqscially covered the whole 1/3 of the side of the tank....
then added 2 braces in dark red over the 2 new pieces
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dangerousd
29-11-2010, 14:36
Have you replaced the styrofoam with one solid peace yet ?
eeeeek ..... nope it's a little messy under the glass - but solid
The new styrofoam wil lgo in when I do the final move cause it will sit 1/2 on the wall 1/2 on the cabinet I bought from you :-\
Oh JA - will post the spray bar tonight - it really came out cool (made from black garden hose)
That should be more than strong enough:
Asking cause if you have any unevenness that might cause more problems.
Ok, :) keeps the pics coming :)
dangerousd
30-11-2010, 14:37
especially for DONNY.... some new styrofoam
+ pic of the koi in the tank....
and then an idea I have for a filter / sump (4 plastic buckets) - just 2 in now as a tester (all connected with 50mm pipe)
1) Bioballs
2) Matala matting / roof insulation / filter material
3) Ceramic Rings / etc
4) Return pump
Gives you 200 liters of filtereed water.. ? :-)
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dangerousd
30-11-2010, 14:44
About time :) :) LOL.
LOL LOL - saw it in the hardware today - did not even know they sell it :-)
- Anyway tonight I need all the water out and need to level the tank as it's leaning to the right a bit (I acatully think my garage fall has sucken slighlty from the weight
When its done its going to be beyond all the trouble, your tank is going to look stunning.
wow!! wood looks flippin amazing!! :) weldone!
dangerousd
30-11-2010, 15:00
When its done its going to be beyond all the trouble, your tank is going to look stunning.
You going to be sorry you sold.... :-)
CHECK THE IDEA FOR THE FILTER
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I know :)
other half promised to replace it with something bigger :) :) when we have the space.
dangerousd
09-12-2010, 15:25
OK here the last pics of the work before the tanks goes into the WALL :-) :-) :-)
The Hole....
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Pic 1 = alumnium detail of tank - so when in wall looks seamless
Pic 2 - final pieces of wood
Pic = close up
Pic = Guido (finally doing some work) :-)
Hey kaalvoet Thysie!!! No saftyboots. Eina.
Would like to see the end result.
Dam thats looking awesome
LOVE the wood floating in the pool - priceless!
Pic 2 - final pieces of wood
Hey D, just between you and me but there is something growing in your pool :P
Going to be legendary.
OMG! Nice man!! wheres the sump going to sit though?
Multy purpose Jumper cables. wicked!
dangerousd
10-12-2010, 08:49
Multy purpose Jumper cables. wicked!
LOL ... you gotta go with what you got!
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OMG! Nice man!! wheres the sump going to sit though?
The whole tank sits 23cm on the wall and 67cm on a cabinet outside in the garage -
So sump will sit inside that cupboard - bascially just going to use 2 plastic tubs (for now) will post pic when done
mydummyname
10-12-2010, 09:46
really looking forward to seeing the end result of this boet!!
awesome!
oh i see.. clever work man.. hav to be pretty precise though.. if its just at a bit of an angle between the wall and stand.. you could risk cracking it :(
Dangoursd in one of your previous threads you did say you will have solid peace of wood running over the wall and onto the stand to prevent unevenness.
Correct me if i am wrong?
dangerousd
10-12-2010, 14:50
Dangoursd in one of your previous threads you did say you will have solid peace of wood running over the wall and onto the stand to prevent unevenness.
Correct me if i am wrong?
Ja ja sorry - forgot to mention DOUBLE piece of wood running over both
We measured today - and it's 100% level - going to be a tight squeeze - meeting thre guy right now to put it in
Will post a pic when done
oh i see.. nice man!! i think im more excited than u!:P haha
guido.coza
11-12-2010, 10:24
Hey what do you mean finaly doing some work, Even nat told you to take your time!!!!! and do things properly (-:
dangerousd
14-12-2010, 14:28
OK guys - BIG thanks to GUIDO..... for getting my tank in the wall with no problems (yet)
Here goes the pictures to prove it....
HOLE in the wall
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TANK GOING IN .....
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TANK IN IN IN :-)
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Layout not done - but getting there!
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Just ad idea of the NATURAL light it gets in the morning... (hopefully help grow some nice plants)
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Damn, that's one awesome install :)
I'm loving naturally lit tanks at the moment, what are you going to be filling it with ?
dangerousd
14-12-2010, 14:49
Damn, that's one awesome install :)
I'm loving naturally lit tanks at the moment, what are you going to be filling it with ?
Sorry I thought I read Filtering.... you mean what fishes?
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Going to go with a community tank......
But take some time buying the fishes slowly - cause thats the fun part!
got 1200L to play wth :-)
azurekoi
14-12-2010, 14:51
Dude,you must be so relieved now the hard graft's done....Congrats!!!
Just a word on your filtration... The Ultra Zap inline pressurised filter you got was designed to run inline after a Sandfilter that acts as primary mechanical filtration... Without it,longterm you might run into some snags with bacteria dying of due to to much sludge... Pack a thick wad of "batting" in the top of it to act as some kind of prefilter,that will help...
And yaeh...What is gonna go into this bad boy? Inquiring minds would like to know
Very very cool!
Is that a Subaru I see? ;)
oh my flip! really cool man!!hey also an idea for touchup, maybe add a frame around the tank on the inside to disguise any gaps in the wall?
dangerousd
14-12-2010, 15:36
Dude,you must be so relieved now the hard graft's done....Congrats!!!
Just a word on your filtration... The Ultra Zap inline pressurised filter you got was designed to run inline after a Sandfilter that acts as primary mechanical filtration... Without it,longterm you might run into some snags with bacteria dying of due to to much sludge... Pack a thick wad of "batting" in the top of it to act as some kind of prefilter,that will help...
And yaeh...What is gonna go into this bad boy? Inquiring minds would like to know
You 100% spot on with that filter - I stuff the first section with roof insulation then add some bio balls
Then open up and just replace the roof insulation..... I miught use it just as a final cleaner for the water so on return from sumpo through the bio filter (just filled with roof insulation) Just to give it that final sparkle :-) might be over kill
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oh my flip! really cool man!!hey also an idea for touchup, maybe add a frame around the tank on the inside to disguise any gaps in the wall?
100000% going to do the whole wall in a black slate or concrete type large tile - so the tank should be seamless....
Will cover probably 1/2 the aluminium frame all round (might give it soe nice depth as well :-)
and cover all styrofoam / wood etc
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Very very cool!
Is that a Subaru I see? ;)
You see right..... :-) see you at the track on the 18th for the SCOOBY fest?
> http://www.webguruafrica.com/SOCSA-endofyear2010.jpg
azurekoi
14-12-2010, 15:49
dangerousd ... Thought I might be stating the obvious....lol
No overkill when it comes to filtration...ever!!! Know some serious koi collectors that have filtration that is two thirds the volume of their koi ponds... Costing like 3 of your Scoobie's for the setup... you ask them - they'll say its worth every cent!!
dangerousd
14-12-2010, 16:13
dangerousd ... Thought I might be stating the obvious....lol
No overkill when it comes to filtration...ever!!! Know some serious koi collectors that have filtration that is two thirds the volume of their koi ponds... Costing like 3 of your Scoobie's for the setup... you ask them - they'll say its worth every cent!!
Hey but you don't even know what's in my scooby.... LOL
that actually reminds me I need to re-visit my koi filtration! What do you use for your koi pond as filtration?
guido.coza
15-12-2010, 07:27
Hi Dangerousd
I still think a mat black frame would be less obtrusive and take less focus away from the tank! Did you manage to get some substrate? Need to get cracking if you wonna get anywhere b4 Christmas
You 100% spot on with that filter - I stuff the first section with roof insulation then add some bio balls
Then open up and just replace the roof insulation..... I miught use it just as a final cleaner for the water so on return from sumpo through the bio filter (just filled with roof insulation) Just to give it that final sparkle :-) might be over kill
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100000% going to do the whole wall in a black slate or concrete type large tile - so the tank should be seamless....
Will cover probably 1/2 the aluminium frame all round (might give it soe nice depth as well :-)
and cover all styrofoam / wood etc
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You see right..... :-) see you at the track on the 18th for the SCOOBY fest?
> http://www.webguruafrica.com/SOCSA-endofyear2010.jpg
i have lava rock in my pond filter.. but im thinkin of upgrading to plastic bio balls.. but i know of lots of ppl that use a normal pool sand filter with great success.. acompanied with pond plants that is..
dangerousd
15-12-2010, 09:55
Hi Dangerousd
I still think a mat black frame would be less obtrusive and take less focus away from the tank! Did you manage to get some substrate? Need to get cracking if you wonna get anywhere b4 Christmas
Did not get a chance to get the substrate YET .... might go today (some of us have to work)
Leave the design to the designers! :-)
azurekoi
15-12-2010, 10:36
Eish koi pond filtration....now thats another can of worms...(not hijacking the thread - YOU asked...)
Works like any filtration - you GOT to have an efficient form of mechanical filtration before your biological filtration...Many people use sandfilters followed by The Ultra Zap biofilters,but I'm more of an in ground,through flow chamber filter kinda guy - 3 chambers -->1st with brushes,other 2 with biomedia of choice...Chambers should hold about 20 - 25% of volume of pond and have a turnover rate of once every hour to two hours of the pond volume through the filter...
Bit more high tech - I hold a patent on a Vortex filter and the bio media that goes inside... These I have manufactured and all my ponds in my shop run on these(+ Chamber filration...)...Each filter is both mechanical(Vortex or spinning motion of water seperates the solids) and biological(think of a cross fused bunch of "sinkplaat" and you get the picture) - Each unit comfortably filters 20 000liters and a simple 5 second flush /day gets rid of all the waste solids...QED
Not a huge fan of a Sand filter - seen to many things go WRONG with it over the years,leading to total wipe out's of ponds... + the maintanance on them is a killer....
dangerousd
15-12-2010, 11:31
Bit more high tech - I hold a patent on a Vortex filter and the bio media that goes inside... These I have manufactured and all my ponds in my shop run on these(+ Chamber filration...)...Each filter is both mechanical(Vortex or spinning motion of water seperates the solids) and biological(think of a cross fused bunch of "sinkplaat" and you get the picture) - Each unit comfortably filters 20 000liters and a simple 5 second flush /day gets rid of all the waste solids...QED
This sounds pretty cool -you have any more info on it?
I use the same a chamber with Roof Insulation / Matala matting / Bio Balls (like 3 chambers)
oh ja and a UV light !
ive also seen ppl use air pumps in the bio chaimber of the filter.. very clever as the benificial bacteria needs good o2 to survive..
dangerousd
15-12-2010, 11:40
ive also seen ppl use air pumps in the bio chaimber of the filter.. very clever as the benificial bacteria needs good o2 to survive..
Hmmm - interesting idea... I like a good flow of water through the chambers to get the air flowing
azurekoi
15-12-2010, 11:42
Will take some pics later and post - easier than explaining in words...
dangerousd ... Sounds like a good setup - love matala matting,brill stuff...
shihr ... Yeah,do the same in my vortexes... not only extra oxygen,but the "lifting" action of the bubbles remove dead bio film(that rust brown gunk on your bio media) from your bio media,ensuring a constantly regenerating and ammonia hungry bacterial bio film..
guido.coza
15-12-2010, 12:07
Hi D
good flow is ok but you have to give the bacteria enough time to do there job so too much is no good
Hmmm - interesting idea... I like a good flow of water through the chambers to get the air flowing
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Works like any filtration - you GOT to have an efficient form of mechanical filtration before your biological filtration... - 3 chambers -->1st with brushes,other 2 with biomedia of choice...Chambers should hold about 20 - 25% of volume of pond and have a turnover rate of once every hour to two hours of the pond volume through the filter..
Hi Azurkoi
Just a question isn't that flowrate quite high? And why such a high flow rate? If the mechanicle cleaning of the water is good would a slower turnaround time not be more efficient??
azurekoi
15-12-2010, 12:17
Nope Guido ---> maybe just the way I expressed it,but 10 to 20 times slower filtration than what we employ in our aquariums... You look to take the whole pond's vlume thru the filter only once every one to two hours....
dangerousd
10-01-2011, 10:00
OK after lots of hard work... the Tank is FINALLY finished and here is the proof
thnaks again to Guido for advice / plants / talking sh@t
Comments suggestions PLEASE!!!!!
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dangerousd
10-01-2011, 10:03
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BACK OF THE TANK (Garage side)
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That looks Awesome ,, Congrats on a Stunning Tank :) :) .... Well Done DangerousD.
dangerousd
10-01-2011, 10:09
That looks Awesome ,, Congrats on a Stunning Tank :) :) .... Well Done DangerousD.
THANKS Donny - as you know lots of hard work.... :-)
AND THIS is what's inside at the moment
30 RED EYES TETRA
14 CONGO TETRA
6 RAMS
5 CLOWN LOACH
2 UPSIDE DOWN CATFISH
1 CHINESE ALGAE EATER
2 RED LINE TORPEDO BARB (in quarantine at the moment)
(some Gold fish - that are going to the office soon)
Maybe some more clown's :) & some cardinals or neons.
dangerousd
10-01-2011, 10:53
Maybe some more clown's :) & some cardinals or neons.
Got an order in for 50 Cardinals..... :-0
Thats going to look awesome, are you to try and get some moss and java fern for the wood.
dangerousd
10-01-2011, 11:04
Thats going to look awesome, are you to try and get some moss and java fern for the wood.
Would l.ove to get some MOSS growing on those round pieces of wood - BUT have no idea how to do it
>>>>> Ferns I will definitely attach to the wood
Brother uses cotton to tie the moss down. and after a while the moss will cover the cotton.
dangerousd
10-01-2011, 11:14
Brother uses cotton to tie the moss down. and after a while the moss will cover the cotton.
But whewre you get moss from???
Brother says he got his from a small pet shop inside the shoprite centre in bothasig just past superplant. Dont know the name but he says he will go look the weekend and let me know.
dangerousd
10-01-2011, 14:01
Brother says he got his from a small pet shop inside the shoprite centre in bothasig just past superplant. Dont know the name but he says he will go look the weekend and let me know.
Cool let me know - I'm dead keen on getting some MOSS going
The Prof also has moss, not sure on the volumes or if he's selling though. But there should be no need to buy moss, plenty of people should have spare :)
that looks flippin amazing! well done man!
dangerousd
11-01-2011, 13:38
The Prof also has moss, not sure on the volumes or if he's selling though. But there should be no need to buy moss, plenty of people should have spare :)
anyone CT side have some spare - will collect ?
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that looks flippin amazing! well done man!
thanks shihr - bloody loads of work -
But love it go down in the morning cup of coffee / feed the fish sit for like 30minutes just watching the tank go mad
LOVE it
Danderousd will speak to brother to see if he has spare for you.
Your tank is looking very impressive.
Congrats on a job very well done.
Lappies
great stuff man, the tank looks wicked
dangerousd
11-01-2011, 14:59
Your tank is looking very impressive.
Congrats on a job very well done.
Lappies
Dankie dankie
Your tank looks really nice...smart idea also, through the wall...cool
dangerousd
11-01-2011, 15:16
Your tank looks really nice...smart idea also, through the wall...cool
Ja it's great ... all the mess stays in the garage... and water noise... I have a hospital tank / pumpos nets etc etc in there
+ I think the best thing is that you can't stick your hand in the tank all the time so the fish are happier :-)
dangerousd
25-01-2011, 12:33
QUICK update on the tank.... WITH T5 high out 4 tubes (white / 2 blue) X 2
PICS
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YOUR tank is looking awesome
:congrats: :congrats:
dangerousd
25-01-2011, 12:44
YOUR tank is looking awesome
:congrats: :congrats:
YOU mean YOUR tank... lol - looking awesome now with the lights.. I'm loving the size of it (endless stuff to play with)
How many fish have you got in the tub so far ?
Well done indeed! That looks amazing! See? That's why I want the blue lights as well... It gives that marine look ;-)
It's looking fantastic, what gravel are you using? It really looks nice and natural in that dark gray
OH MY FLIP! hats off man! u have done a GREAT job!! :)
dangerousd
25-01-2011, 13:18
CURRENTLY in the tank...
15 Giant Danios
10 Red Line torpedo barbs
12 Congo Tetras
6 Angels (scalare I hope)
30 Red Eye Congo Tetras
5 Clown Loaches
4 Blue Ram
1 Butterfly Cichlid
2 Upside down catfish
1 Raphael Catfish
10 Golden Apple Snails
OH ja and - 1 lemon Algae Eater
dangerousd
25-01-2011, 13:20
It's looking fantastic, what gravel are you using? It really looks nice and natural in that dark gray
Sand was sourced from Just outside V&A waterfront on the beach (it's actually black sand mixed with beach sand = sometimes looks grey / sometimes black)
dangerousd
25-01-2011, 13:21
OH MY FLIP! hats off man! u have done a GREAT job!! :)
thanks man - loving this tank - my best yet......
Nice mix of fish :) ,,, did you come right with moss yet ?
i love the pebbles sitting in one area.. also the waves in the substrate!! looks so natural! im really impressed.. im sure it took u long to get it like this? the most natural and simple looks always take the longest to create!! i been through that :P haha
That's one monster tank. Looks awesome. Well done.
dangerousd
25-01-2011, 14:10
Nice mix of fish :) ,,, did you come right with moss yet ?
No moss YET - plants were dying casue lack of light ... Jusy unstalled the T5's on Sunday...
so now can focus on plants / moss / scaping
Ok, will keep a look out did you get the gumtree add i sent ?
dangerousd
25-01-2011, 14:33
Ok, will keep a look out did you get the gumtree add i sent ?
JA thanks got it... did not phone yet - thanks
Have you got any photos of the clowns? I'd love to see how they behave in a tank this size!
Keshen Singh
26-01-2011, 07:09
Your tank is looking great man...
dangerousd
26-01-2011, 11:20
Have you got any photos of the clowns? I'd love to see how they behave in a tank this size!
The Clown are still babies and seem to stick in a nice group... they have taken the right piece of driftwood and the upside down catfishes the left (seem never to mix)
Will take some pics of them ...
Trevor Pleco
26-01-2011, 11:45
[QUOTE=dangerousd;88788]QUICK update on the tank.... WITH T5 high out 4 tubes (white / 2 blue) X 2
Interested in your T5 lights as currently settting up, be it very slowly, roughly the same size planted tank, surely you also need a mix of some plant lights and the correct kelvin, not just ''blue and white'' ? Life Glo, Grolux .... ? In the end how many T5s do you plan on using ?
dangerousd
26-01-2011, 11:55
[QUOTE=dangerousd;88788]QUICK update on the tank.... WITH T5 high out 4 tubes (white / 2 blue) X 2
Interested in your T5 lights as currently settting up, be it very slowly, roughly the same size planted tank, surely you also need a mix of some plant lights and the correct kelvin, not just ''blue and white'' ? Life Glo, Grolux .... ? In the end how many T5s do you plan on using ?
Hey TP
Right Now I have 8 Bulbs (2 x 90 cm T5 high Out out)
Basically the 1 90cm coer the left and 1 the right ( 4 bulbs each side)
I'm using the bulbs that came with the lights which are 6500k rated on the white bulbs (not sure about the blue)
But I have 2 life Glow T5 btubes that I will chnage out with the blues (I think )
So will be left with 6 White / 2 blue (the life glow tubes - 1 is rated at 6500k the other 1200k)
this is what I can remember off the top of my head - I need to double check the k rating
I might even add another 8 tubes... or cfl spots in the long run (depending on Budget)
Update pics of this monster tank please...
dangerousd
19-01-2012, 16:08
Update pics of this monster tank please...
Rickus - just installed CO2 on the tank .... 3 weeks, so holding thumbs for good forrest soon :-)
Will post pics tomorrow (before / during / after CO2 insallation )
Oh, goodie! Lookin forward to those pics!
dangerousd
25-01-2012, 08:03
OK here goe s- just as a start - FULL PIC of the tank - got loads more coming next (Comments suggestion, on design and layout.... PLEASE)
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OK here goe s- just as a start - FULL PIC of the tank - got loads more coming next (Comments suggestion, on design and layout.... PLEASE)
Nah dude, you just keep on doing what you're doing, it looks perfect as it is!
So jealous right now!
Dam thats looking awesome some more close ups please and of the filter system you running, how many fish have you got in there?
dangerousd
25-01-2012, 08:15
Dam thats looking awesome some more close ups please and of the filter system you running, how many fish have you got in there?
Hey Donny..... bet you wish you had kept this tank now :-)
I post list of fish and pics now ....
YES and YES :)
my turn will come again :) ... All i can says is DAM it looks AWESOME .
Would still like to come see it in person one day.
dangerousd
25-01-2012, 08:21
HIGH RES version - for those who want to take a closer look :-)
http://www.webguruafrica.com/tank-full-high-res.jpg (http://www.webguruafrica.com/tank-full-high-res.jpg)
mydummyname
25-01-2012, 08:38
Dangeroud man! that tank is awesome!
i am so envious of those red line torpedo barbs.
lovely stuff! you have done a fantastic job, thanks for showing the rest of us how it is done!
;)
dangerousd
25-01-2012, 08:43
I'll let these speak for themselves
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dangerousd
25-01-2012, 08:48
and this will freak people out - The back looks better than the front ( this is in my garage :-)
When I open my gate people stare at the TANK - LOL
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dangerousd
25-01-2012, 08:58
and some technical shots ....
Co2
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Lights
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Good GROWTH?? healthy?
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Start of my forest (maybe) HOPE so...
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Dude thats a smart looking tank you have!
Love the Massive driftwood!
I have to agree, I am green with envy! Its a stunning looking tank.
dangerousd
25-01-2012, 09:13
and finally FISH fish and more fish
FEEDING TIME IN THE ZOO
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FATTY
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2 CATS
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MR Perfect
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Co2 Bubbles
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dangerousd
25-01-2012, 09:14
Dude thats a smart looking tank you have!
Love the Massive driftwood!
Thanks ... been lots of work...
drift wood R25 a piece from side of the road in the Knysna forest :-)
All your work has paid off the the tank looks brilliant.
Trevor Pleco
25-01-2012, 11:14
Looking good ! That frame reminds me of the Sultan of Brunei’s collection of tanks at his palace, which I had the privilege of checking out on a work trip several years back, they were embossed in real gold and incredibly ornate and almost distracted you from the tank itself. This included a long row of one meter high vertical tanks with stunning arowanas, all the colours of the rainbow – pinks, blood reds, greens, blacks, golds, some with yellow tails and even shades of blue, each costing mega bucks which only he could afford. Sorry bud, for getting off the topic of your post!
One small thing, I note your Boyu magnetic cleaner is stored on the glass. With your filter circulation this can trap debris and grit and the next time you use it you will suddenly wonder where the scratches come from! Word of warning - take it off between cleans and even wash it a couple of times during a big glass clean. I learnt the hard way!
Better still throw it away and use your credit card, preferably an expired one, lol !
dangerousd
25-01-2012, 13:12
Looking good ! That frame reminds me of the Sultan of Brunei’s collection of tanks at his palace, which I had the privilege of checking out on a work trip several years back, they were embossed in real gold and incredibly ornate and almost distracted you from the tank itself. This included a long row of one meter high vertical tanks with stunning arowanas, all the colours of the rainbow – pinks, blood reds, greens, blacks, golds, some with yellow tails and even shades of blue, each costing mega bucks which only he could afford. Sorry bud, for getting off the topic of your post!
One small thing, I note your Boyu magnetic cleaner is stored on the glass. With your filter circulation this can trap debris and grit and the next time you use it you will suddenly wonder where the scratches come from! Word of warning - take it off between cleans and even wash it a couple of times during a big glass clean. I learnt the hard way!
Better still throw it away and use your credit card, preferably an expired one, lol !
LOL - cool story.... would love to see Sultan of Brunei’s collection
My frame is a bit bling , but I like it !
Good tip re the magnetic cleaner - already got a few scratches - eeeek
thanks !!
ryanj252
25-01-2012, 14:13
Better still throw it away and use your credit card, preferably an expired one, lol
I found this out just the other day! I felt like i had discovered something awesome....only to realise you use this method aswell. Im so amazed at how good it works!
Trevor Pleco
25-01-2012, 14:31
My frame is a bit bling , but I like it !
'Bling’ is cool and contemporary so no problems with that bud, but 29 carat gold.. well that’s a bit over the top !
http://www.fulldhamaal.com/image-gallery/sultan-of-brunei-president-of-the-richest-country-in-the-world-fact-pictures-31447.htm
I can't stop laughing! THAT'S SERIOUS BLING!
Now I NEED to see his tanks! Thanks for that link, Trevor!
........and sorry for the hijack, dangerousd! Your tank looks stunning!
Trevor Pleco
25-01-2012, 14:53
Now I NEED to see his tanks! Thanks for that link, Trevor!
Wish I could have snapped a few pics, but all cameras were 4bidden in the royal palace, unless they were gold of course !
Good_Times
25-01-2012, 15:08
Hey dangerousd (http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/member.php?1112-dangerousd) very nice setup, I usually hate doing dishes but at your home I'd make an exception, although I cant guarantee how clean the dishes would be :wink:.
Anyway I was wondering how u do maintenance in terms of the tank. I noticed there are rocks on the gravel so I guess you don't do vacuum cleaning?
Trevor Pleco
25-01-2012, 15:38
Now I NEED to see his tanks! Thanks for that link, Trevor!
Perhaps we should rather start a Sultan's fish tank/keep on dreaming thread, but just as a taster, found this pic from one of his palaces on the web.
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Awesome setup dangerousd
Nice to see the lemons and plecos doing well in what can only be called fish heaven.
dangerousd
26-01-2012, 08:20
'Bling’ is cool and contemporary so no problems with that bud, but 29 carat gold.. well that’s a bit over the top !
http://www.fulldhamaal.com/image-gallery/sultan-of-brunei-president-of-the-richest-country-in-the-world-fact-pictures-31447.htm
Jeeeeeeeeeeeese - whats with all the gold... HA HA
dangerousd
26-01-2012, 08:28
Awesome setup @dangerousd (http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/member.php?u=1112)
Nice to see the lemons and plecos doing well in what can only be called fish heaven.
YES happy happy fish ... thanks a mil for those great fish
dangerousd
26-01-2012, 09:47
Hey dangerousd (http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/member.php?1112-dangerousd) very nice setup, I usually hate doing dishes but at your home I'd make an exception, although I cant guarantee how clean the dishes would be :wink:.
Anyway I was wondering how u do maintenance in terms of the tank. I noticed there are rocks on the gravel so I guess you don't do vacuum cleaning?
Hey Good_Times ... thanks dude.......
Lucky I have a dishwasher :-)
MAINTENACE .. Hmmm
I have my own little setup going
I use a wave maker (seen botom right) where the rocks are to circulate the water & sht up to the sump inlet (top back right)
SO kind of self cleans .... Then water changes.. the tank is so deep I can really vacuum the bottom so I kind of stir up the water then suck it out as per normal
BUT this was with no plants (or vey little plants)
Have to be more careful now
My substrate is actaully BLACK SEA SAND
and seems to move easily
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