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Asgar
14-04-2009, 13:32
I'm seeking compatible tank mats for my fish (see signature). I have a 200gal planted tank (vallesneria). All the fish are between the range of 7cm to 11cm.
I don't want fish to eat my plants. Please advise.

Scaly
15-04-2009, 14:39
Hi Asgar

Mmm not sure what else to add, but I have to question the puffer as they are actually brackish fish and will require higher salinity levels as the fish grow older...

Did you ever consider a school of Altums...

Cheers

Vince

veegal
15-04-2009, 15:19
Vince, as far as I know the figure 8 puffers are freshwater puffers but can tolerate brackish water as well.

2time
15-04-2009, 17:56
plus the puffer is aggressive and will attack your other fish
puffers should be kept in a species only tank

Philfarm
15-04-2009, 19:10
Lol, Scaly did you just recommend Aultum angels to a beginner?:amazed:

Henk Hugo
15-04-2009, 19:18
Lol, Scaly did you just recommend Aultum angels to a beginner?:amazed:

*snigger*

those wont be altums btw - they will jsut be wild P. Scalare

Dolphin
15-04-2009, 19:49
Asgar, I must agree with the others... the figure eight puffer is not ideally suited to a community setup and will most likely nip/bite his tank mates.

How big is the Altum angel? Can you post a pic of him.

Perhaps consider a school of rainbows that you might like. Also consider loaches, largish congo tetras, black ghost knifefish and bala sharks.

Philfarm
15-04-2009, 19:52
Realized what he probably meant afterward but couldn't change it on my phone..

Dolphin
15-04-2009, 19:56
and maybe some "non-agro" cichlids such as keyholes & kribensis

Henk Hugo
15-04-2009, 20:10
Kribs get VERY agro when theres babies around

Dolphin
15-04-2009, 20:48
Kribs get VERY agro when theres babies around


yep very true... maybe keep only males or only females :p

Scaly
16-04-2009, 09:39
Hi Asgar


Did you ever consider a school of Altums...

Cheers

Vince


hee hee did not recommend, just asked if it was considered....you have got to aim for something... ;)

re the fig 8 puffer... well I stand corrected, but there are many conflicting views on different websites. What I gather from them is that they live in fresh water but spawn in brackish? I guess that is why this is called a forum. Thanks!

Vincent

Asgar
16-04-2009, 12:00
Asgar, I must agree with the others... the figure eight puffer is not ideally suited to a community setup and will most likely nip/bite his tank mates.

How big is the Altum angel? Can you post a pic of him.

Perhaps consider a school of rainbows that you might like. Also consider loaches, largish congo tetras, black ghost knifefish and bala sharks.

The Altums Angel is one of my largest fish about 8-9cm in length and width.I know the Figure 8 puffer gets a bit nippy. Will it be Problem if kept with more Altums angel? I already have an altums angel and there doesnt seem to be a problem. However I guess more slow movers in the tank will entice the puffer to be nippy.


Lol, Scaly did you just recommend Aultum angels to a beginner?:amazed:

From my experience Altums angels seem to be much hardier than other species of angels.

Henk Hugo
16-04-2009, 12:05
IT IS NOT AN ALTUM.... NOT AN ALTUMMMMMMMMMM

geez dude - trust me.... its a wild form of the normal P. Scalare

Asgar
16-04-2009, 12:11
IT IS NOT AN ALTUM.... NOT AN ALTUMMMMMMMMMM

geez dude - trust me.... its a wild form of the normal P. Scalare

What makes you say so

Henk Hugo
16-04-2009, 12:13
altums cost a fortune, they are not avialible in the trade, they die if not kept in 100% right conditions. What you DO get in the trade is normal, common angels that gets sold as altums. its usually P. Scalare from the Rio Negro

solex69
16-04-2009, 12:19
A - Getting an Altum is very difficult
B - Getting an Altum alive and well at your doorstep is more difficult
C - Keeping it alive is uber difficult

Cheers
Dale

Scaly
16-04-2009, 12:32
Asgar can you post a pic...I have argued with Henk before and lost... (Blue acara vs Texan Cichlids ha ha)

veegal
16-04-2009, 12:57
A - Getting an Altum is very difficult


Geez that is an understatement - it's almost impossible :p:p

Henk Hugo
16-04-2009, 13:08
Veegal - my 1M cube would be indeal to try out your wild discus befor the altums :D

Jim
16-04-2009, 23:42
Bala sharks are a def, just be sure to get atleast 3-5, they swim as a shole and are awesome to watch!!

I currently have 3 in my tank and they are a real treat!!

And silver dollars could work as well, same rule as bala sharks though, 3-5 fish in one tank atleast.

Henk Hugo
17-04-2009, 05:26
Balas get very large and are extremely active fish. they are up on the list with Pangasius cats with fish that should be left in the rivers

veegal
17-04-2009, 06:29
The Silver Dollars will eat the plants.

Henk Hugo
17-04-2009, 06:32
The Silver Dollars will eat the plants.

spot on - missed that part :p

Jim
22-04-2009, 09:20
You guys really know ur stuff, glad I joined!!!

Where can i find info of this caliber on the internet?? All u usually get of the net is same old, same old. This is the info everyone actually needs!!!

Will have to consult with u guys before my next purchase!! ;-)

jano
25-04-2009, 13:16
One of the surprises I got, is that fish often have personalities which make them act counter to common wisdom. I don't know all of your fish, so watch for others' responses to my bits. In my experience:
1. Bala shark took serious issue with my Moonlight Gourami, although it was happy with the others (golden, 3-spot, pearl and dwarf). Had to put the shark in its own tank and eventually gave it away.
2. A small school of zebra danios could add some nice activity in the top/middle layers. Small and agile, nice activity in the top and middle layers. Easy fish to keep.
3. A small group of corydoras at the bottom also adds activity there; they seem to get along with most fish and it is fun to watch these busy little guys.


Enjoy!

Henk Hugo
25-04-2009, 15:07
Hey Jano,

Bala sharks needs to be kept in schools of 5 or more

Asgar
26-04-2009, 12:32
2. A small school of zebra danios could add some nice activity in the top/middle layers. Small and agile, nice activity in the top and middle layers. Easy fish to keep.



Enjoy!

The zebra danios are a definite no, because they will end up as a midnight snack for my Clown Knife.

Henk Hugo
26-04-2009, 13:18
Asgar where that photo of the "altum"?

Asgar
26-04-2009, 15:55
Figured out it aint an Altum. I suspected something fishy when I bought it so cheap.

veegal
26-04-2009, 18:57
Figured out it aint an Altum. I suspected something fishy when I bought it so cheap.

You surely aren't the first and you definately won't be the last to think that the petshops sell you an altum.

JaguarCichlid
26-04-2009, 20:42
Figured out it aint an Altum. I suspected something fishy when I bought it so cheap.

Is that another "Point" to Henk?????
Careful, his head is gonna swell.... :bigsmile:

veegal
26-04-2009, 20:55
Is that another "Point" to Henk?????
Careful, his head is gonna swell.... :bigsmile:

:congrats:

solex69
28-04-2009, 09:38
If his head swells anymore it's going to pop :)

Chiao
D