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Franna
23-04-2010, 07:19
Can I break a piece off this plant and replant it or what would be the best method? I THINK its Barter's Anubias but I'm not sure.

Vis
23-04-2010, 07:23
Franna I have split them at the base, the storisma(spelling), and the the two pieces grew fine after that. I think you know that it should not be burried in the sand or it will rot.

Franna
23-04-2010, 07:28
Franna I have split them at the base, the storisma(spelling), and the the two pieces grew fine after that. I think you know that it should not be burried in the sand or it will rot.

Is it suppose to be a floating plant? its been in there for about 5 months now. will take it out and look at the roots. Thanks

Supersam
23-04-2010, 07:30
do you just weight the stems down?

Vis
23-04-2010, 07:31
No not floating but grow on rocks and driftwood. I use a very flat little piece of rock. You tie them down with something untill they have rooted themselves. They are very hardy plants though. Your substrate might allow for enough water flow to the roots.

Mine really started growing better after I removed it from the substrate.

Zoom
23-04-2010, 07:39
I don't know that plant paricularly... but this is my experience in the past:

* Plants with a rhizome can be split rather easily. (If the cutting has a bit of the rhizome, all the better, and if it still has roots, even better.)
* Some plants have a lot of roots, if you can split the plant so that each plant has roots, it will generally still grow.
* I have however also had success in cutting a leaf off, letting it float in the top of the tank for a few days, and noticed roots forming at the base of the leaf's stem. I would leave the leaf floating in the top for a w while, because here it is closest to the light, and also the surface where there is gaseous exhange occuring.

I had a chat with a landscaper on Monday who has also studies aquatic plants, and he has said the most successful way of propegating a plant from a leaf is exactly as I mentioned above, except he says you would need to slit the stemof the leaf in half with a sharp knife about 10-15mm up from the bottom. This allows nutrients to enter easier as there is more of the internal parts of the stem exposed, and a better chance of the leaf sprouting roots.

Vis
23-04-2010, 07:42
a rhizome

AAa that thing yes. What was i thinking of ?

Zoom
23-04-2010, 07:49
AAa that thing yes. What was i thinking of ?

Heehee.... I wasn't even going to argue... I had vision of me asking, don't you mean a rhizome Vis, and then you come back with a botanical explanation the difference between a Rhizome and "what you named", and that the plant has a "what you named" and not a Rhizome. So I just assumed that you were right. Hehe

neilh
23-04-2010, 07:56
Are the leaves waxy? Looks too light green to be an Anubias unless the white balance is off :p

But yeah, as explained before, split at the roots. And generally Anubias shouldn't be planted, rather attached to rockwork and driftwood

Supersam
23-04-2010, 08:05
are u saying it shouldent be planted at all but atached to rocked and drift wood? i'm can't get them to grow at most one of them pushed a new leaf but its planted, i left the other in there pots to experiment first.

Franna
23-04-2010, 08:24
That photo does have a bit too much exposure.

Saw this one was floating in my GF's tank so I borrowed it to take photos.
The leaves are kind of waxy. does the roots look rotten? this one was in the gravel for a while, about 3 months


are u saying it shouldent be planted at all but atached to rocked and drift wood? i'm can't get them to grow at most one of them pushed a new leaf but its planted, i left the other in there pots to experiment first.


Mine still grows well while in the gravel. but it would be nice to try something new to improve the growth rate

Donny
23-04-2010, 08:36
My Plant like this has been happily growing in sand for the past 3 to 4 years.

Khalid
23-04-2010, 08:40
Still not rotten. still looks good.
From my past experience with Anubias, cut the rhizome with a few leaves and roots attached to get the best results.
Will grow much better if the rhizome is not buried or covered.
After a while the roots will grow into the sand for extra nourishment

Vis
23-04-2010, 08:47
What I mentioned Zoom is something planty, but not sure what part. Wiil ask the wife.
Guys it is a very hardy plant and will grow but not as good as planted correctly

carl p
23-04-2010, 08:48
attach anubia to rock or wood with elastic, its the easiest way but a bit unsightly, i have used black cotton thread in the past looks much better but its a hell of a job attaching it to the rock/wood.

Zoom
23-04-2010, 11:00
I think we are all arguing the same idea... from our own perspective.

The anubia will grow BOTH planted in the substrate, or tied to a rock/log BUT the rhizome... the part where the leaves join... what could also be interpretted at the stem, needs to be OUT THE SAND.

I've found that the plants grows a lot better it tied to a rock with some cotton or an elatistc. I've also found that the plant is an extremely slow grower (depending on your lights). I'm in the process of trying to get a rather large pice of rock completely covered with the plant, as it really is a stunning plant when it grows. I've seen a tank before where it completely covered the entire substrate of the tank (rhizome above substrate) and man that was a beautiful thing to see.

JesseG
03-05-2010, 07:27
i have about 7 of the anubias plant in my tank, all planted into the substrate, none have died as yet, all grows well, a bit slow for my liking, but there is growth, will try and keep the rhizome out the substrate to see if that makes a difference...

Gert Combrink
03-05-2010, 15:40
Very interesting topic about a plant, most of us have.
This is my experience with Anubia and Java Fern, etc:
They have a rhizome (Wortelstok) that should not be covered in the substrate, as it could rot and also prevent new leaves forming quickly.( it will just sit there and survive) With the rhizome exposed, new leaves will form quickly as the growth points are not obstructed/smothered. These plants prefer to "sit" on rocks or preferably wood, as wood have nice crevices and holes in it, for the roots to take. Use elastic band or dark cotton.
It does not really matter, elastic bands are more visual, but perish in time, when the roots have taken, and the elastic can be easily fished out. Cotton thread, on the other hand, is not so visual, long lasting, but could be difficult to remove at a later stage.
The rhizome can be cut to propegate these plants, but the leaves, will also create new plants - have you seen the new little Java Ferns develop from a old floating leaf?
Enjoy these gems of our hobby.
Gert.

mc 1
03-05-2010, 17:30
on the rhizome of the anubius it will start growing a little "sprout" plant off the side you just cut that when it gets some leaves and roots and hey presto you got another plant. .Tie it to a rock or pice of driftwood with nylon string or fishing line and take the ties off when it has attached to the rock or drift wood.
Remember that these plants need water flow on their roots to grow and they cant get that in substrate so they just rot and they need to sprout leves off their rhizomes so covering tham with sand prevents or slows that donw alot.

Zoom
03-05-2010, 18:31
Remember that these plants need water flow on their roots to grow and they cant get that in substrate so they just rot and they need to sprout leves off their rhizomes so covering tham with sand prevents or slows that donw alot.

Correction MC...

The roots CAN be buried in the substrate... and the ROOTS don't need waterflor, but the Rhizome should be n the surface.

I will agree with Gert that the plants do grow a LOT better on a rock or wood!

Schalkv710
06-05-2010, 20:05
I got my anubia and java fern already seteld onto a nice piace of wood. they drilled two holes in the wood for the plant roots and its working nicely... i could see growth on the anubia after just two weeks... The java fern grows a bit slower.

Schalk

Dasher
06-05-2010, 20:15
The guy at my LPS used a thread to tie it to a rock,the same thread you use in making clothes.



Think it's called ''garin'' in afrikaans.

George
06-05-2010, 20:44
Just stick it to rock/drift wood with gel super glue.

Vis
06-05-2010, 20:46
Just to confirm, I had an anubias that just did fine planted but did not really GROW, since I put it on a piece of sriftwood it has sprouted two more leaves in no time.