Golden nugets and zebra plecs in JHB

[High-wash]

Hey guys does anyone where i can get a few more golden nugets with the yellow tip not the white aswell as zebra plecs.i have looked all over but also with studying and orking have not had mush time to myself so if anyone knows of a place i promise they are comming to a good home :)

[Henk Hugo]

Zebra plecs you will only get on import. friend of mine got some us R650 a fish.... they are also banned from export in Brazil so you have to find a breeder

[Henk Hugo]

also dont pay any money upfront unless you a. know the supplier and b. have seen the fish. i have often seen guys importing "zebra plecs" and then its actually L2, L74s, LDA1, LDA 19 etc

[High-wash]

Thanks so much henk where is your friends based?ihad a pet shop wo used to have them but for about a year now they dont have them so im assuming that its because of the thing in brazil.i just want two they are so amazin so its worththe buy :)

[Henk Hugo]

are you 100% sure they were zebra plecs and not one of the pekoltias?

[High-wash]

to be honst im not but they had the think white and black stripes if that does help

[Henk Hugo]

all of the fish listed above also have some sort of black and white line pattern :D

[High-wash]

lol than i would not know where ti start hey.what should i look for in a rue zebra pleco?

[Henk Hugo]

These are true zebra plecs.... if they dont look 100% like that then its not... you will have to google a breeder or i can ask my mate where he got his. you need to do some serious research on them as they are very hard to keep




http://www.zebrapleco.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=199

http://www.zebrapleco.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=43

[High-wash]

i have done some reasearch into them i a wanting to keep them with my discus so i sould meet all the watter parameters but im not t sure of how compatable they are with other plecos and clown loaches

[Henk Hugo]

i would keep them in a species tank on their own

[High-wash]

Ok so do you sugest them and the discus i have or just them?

[Henk Hugo]

Discus you can keep with fish like cardinals, otos, cories etc, but the Zebras i would put in a tank on their own with a powerful filter as they like some flow

[High-wash]

alright i can do that well ill get everything ready then take it from there :) i am not sure if you saw my posting on the scat but im realy looking for some so do you have any suggestions as to where i know the average price range but reali these guys aint easy to find

[High-wash]

I know what i can keep the discus with henk i was asking would i be able to keep the zebras with them!

[Henk Hugo]

righteo

[High-wash]

thanks for the help.ill try take pis if i ever see a type pf zebra and post it and see if anone knows f itsa true or not.

[Henk Hugo]

great :D

[city bowl]

Actually I think all Hypancistrus are banned from export from Brazil now,
as apparently are all non describes spieces.

[High-wash]

Thanks city im just going to continue to keep a look out hey

[Dolphin]

Actually I think all Hypancistrus are banned from export from Brazil now,
as apparently are all non describes spieces.


City Bowl, please share with use where you found this info. I'm really interested to know if there are any specific restrictions in place.

[Singularity]

I dont know where he got the info but i am sure he is 110% correct

[Dolphin]

okay, lets wait for a response from city bowl. my concern is that I've got various suppliers offering several hypancistrus sp. from Brazil so I need to know before I go and place an order.

[Henk Hugo]

Guys,
Please google "Zebra pleco export ban" you will find LOADS of info including a wiki posting about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_pleco


his fish was exported from Brazil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) in great numbers. Despite this, the zebra pleco is not found on the IUCN red list.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_pleco#cite_note-Fishbase-0) However, the Brazilian government responded by putting a ban on the exportation of the zebra pleco. Since this ban has been enforced, there has been a trend towards the captive breeding of this exotic and expensive catfish due to its popularity.

[Henk Hugo]

http://www.zebrapleco.com/article2.php


The fish is as of Jan 1.2005 banned from exporting from Brazil, together with several other catfish. Expect another 3 or 4 years before they are readily available again, if it happens at all. In the meantime - let's do our best to breed them to keep the numbers up!

[Dolphin]

Thanks Henk, I'm aware of the ban on L-46 (Hypancistrus Zebra "Zebra Pleco).

The comment made here refers to all Hypancistrus sp. being banned from export due to classication and this is what I need clarity on...


city bowlActually I think all Hypancistrus are banned from export from Brazil now,
as apparently are all non describes spieces.

[Henk Hugo]

yea in my search i saw a looooooong list of L numbers of fish banned form export. cant seem to find it again... it was some forum posting. wil look in the morning

[Dolphin]

yea in my search i saw a looooooong list of L numbers of fish banned form export. cant seem to find it again... it was some forum posting. wil look in the morning


great thanks!

[Henk Hugo]

Here we go:


L26
L63
L64
L65
L155
L273
L27 That goes for all Panaque
ALL Hypancistrus
All Pseudacanthicus apart from L114
and the updated list:


Update,
Read this and weep people!

L002, L074 – Panaque sp.(L002) – Tiger ”Peckoltia”
L004, L005, L028, L073 – Hypancistrus Sp. (L004) – Angelicus Pleco
L010 – Loricaria lata
L011, L035, L108, L116 – Squaliforma cf. emarginata – Red Fin Thresher Pleco, Thresher Pleco
L017 –Hopliancistrus sp. (L017)
L020 – Oligancistrus sp. (L020)
L021 , L023 – Pterygoplichthys pardalis - Albino Pleco, Common Pleco
L024 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L024) – Flame Pleco, Red Fin Cactus Pleco
L025 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L025) – Scarlet Pleco
L027 – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘tapajos’ – Goldline Royal Pleco, Tapajos Royal Pleco, L027 Tapajos
L027, L027c – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘tocantins’ – Platinum Royal Pleco, Tocantins Royal Pleco, L027 Tocantins
L027, L027c, LDA63 – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus ‘xingu’ – Longnosed Royal Pleco, Red Fin Royal Pleco, Xingu Royal Pleco, L027 ‘xingu’
L027a, L330 – Panaque cf. nigrolineatus – Watermelon Pleco
L027b – Panaque sp. cf. nigrolineatus – Olive Royal Pleco, Teles Pires Royal Pleco
L030 – Oligancistrus sp. (L030)
L031, L176, L300, LDA04 – Parancistrus nudiventris – Peppermint Pleco
L033 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L033)
L036 – Hemiancistrus spilomma
L046, L098 – Hypancistrus zebra – Imperial Pleco, Zebra Pleco
L050 – Hypostomus cf. cochliodon – Spotted Cochliodon, Spotted Humpbacked Pleco
L053 – Harttia sp. (L053)
L056 – Pseudancistrus sp. (L056)
L058 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L058)
L063 – Pseadacanthicus sp. cf. serratus
L064 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L064)
L065 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L065) – Blizzard Cactus Pleco, Mustang Cactus Pleco
L066 – Hypancistrus sp. (L066) – King Tiger Pleco, Network Pleco, Scribbled Pleco
L067 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L067)
L068 – Ancistrini sp. (L068)
L069 – Ancistrini sp. (L069)
L070 – Hypancistrus sp. (L070) – Zombie Pleco
L077 – Hypostomus sp. (L077) – Bruno Pleco, Rusty Pleco, Violet Pleco
L079 – Pseadacanthicus sp. (L079)
L082 – Ancistrini sp. (L082) – Opal Spot Pleco, Polka-dot Cigar Pleco
L083, L165 – Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps – Gibby, Sail Fin Pleco
L086, LDA14 – Oligancistrus sp. (L086)
L095 – Pseudorinelepis genibarbis – Orange Cheek Pleco
L096, L160 – Pseudacanthicus spinosus – Coffee & Cream Pleco, Spiny Monster Pleco
L097 – Pseaudacanthicus sp. (L097) – Polka Dot Cactus Pleco
L102 – Hypancistrus inspector – Snowball Pleco
L113, L234 – Megalancistrus parananus
L136, L136a, L136b, LDA05, LDA06 – Hypancistrus sp. (L136)
L137 – Hypostomus soniae – Blue Eyed Red Fin Pleco
L138 – Hypostomus sp. (L138)
L139 – Hypostomus sp. (L139)
L143 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L143)
L155 – Acanthicus hystrix – Lyre Tail Pleco
L168 – Dekeyseria brachyuran – Butterly Pleco, Flounder Pleco
L171, LDA15 – Hopliancistrus sp. (L171)
L172 – Ancistrini sp. (L172)
L174 – Hypancistrus sp. (L174)
L175 – Oligancistrus sp. (L175)
L178 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L178) – Red Fin Lasiancistrus
L179 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L179)
L185 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L185)
L186 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L186)
L196 – Pterygoplichthys lituratus
L197 – Ancistrini sp. (L197)
L198 – Ancistrini sp. (L198)
L208 – Ancistrini sp. (L208)
L210 – Ancistrini sp. (L210)
L216, L151 – Dekeyseria scaphirhyncha – Flat Head Pleco
L217 – Lithoxus sp. (L217)
L221, L223 – Guyanancistrus sp. (L221)
L238, LDA40 – Delturus sp. (L238) – Brook Pleco
L250 – Hypancistrus sp. (L250)
L251 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L251)
L254 – Spectracanthicus sp. (L254)
L256 – Lithoxus sp. (L256)
L258 – Parancistrus sp. (L258)
L259, LDA32 – Parancistrus sp. (LDA32)
L260 – Hypancistrus sp. (L260) – Queen Arabesque Pleco
L262 – Hypancistrus sp. (L262)
L263 – Leporacanthicus sp. (L263)
L270, L307, LDA76 – Hypancistrus sp. (L270) – Chocolate Zebra Pleco, Tapajos Zebra Pleco
L271 – Panaque sp. (L271)
L272 – Panaque sp. (L272)
L273 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L273) – Titanicus Pleco
L275 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L275)
L283 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L283)
L290, L291 – Squaliforma cf. horrida
L294 – Leporacanthicus cf. galaxias (L294)
L296 – Panaque sp. (L296)
L297 – Hypancistrus sp. (L297)
L299 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L299)
L310, LDA51 – Hypostomus cochliodon
L315 – Spectracanthicus sp. (L315)
L318 – Hypancistrus sp. (L318)
L320 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L320)
L321 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L321)
L328 – Pseudolithoxus sp. (L328)
L332 – Parancistrus sp. (L332)
L337 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L337)
L343 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L343)
L333 – Hypancistrus sp. (L333)
L345 – Hypancistrus sp. (L345)
L347 – Pterygoplichthys sp. (L347)
L353 – Oligancistrus sp. (L353)
L354 – Oligancistrus sp. (L354)
L360 – Hypostomus sp. (L360)
L361 – Hopliancistrus sp. (L361)
L363 – Oligancistrus sp. (L363)
L365 – Lasiancistrus sp. (L365)
L366 – Hypostomus sp. (L366)
L367 – Hypostomus sp. (L367)
L373 – Oligancistrus sp. (L373)
L374 – Panaque sp. (L374)
L375 – Pseudacanthicus cf. spinosus
L380 – Pseudcanathicus sp. (L380)
L381 – Hypostomus sp. (L381)
L383 – Pseudacanthicus sp. (L383)
L385 – Pseudolithoxus sp. (L385)
L391 – Oligancistrus sp. (L391)
L397 – Panaque sp. (L397)
L398 – Panaque sp. (L398)
L399 – Hypancistrus sp. (L399)
L400 – Hypancistrus sp. (L400)

[High-wash]

Thanks for that henk :)

[Henk Hugo]

always a plesure.

[city bowl]

That is what I thought, try planet catfish or zebrapleco for further information.
And this... http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1788
Some fish come out through Peru apparently.

[Dolphin]

this is just disastrous :eek:

what list is that Henk?

Is it from South African gov department or is it for exports from Brazil?

[Henk Hugo]

thats from Brazil - they do want to put plecos on the new SANBI list.... then we have a problem

[Dolphin]

thats from Brazil - they do want to put plecos on the new SANBI list.... then we have a problem

thank GOD!

gues I'm going to be extra nice to my supplier in Colombia and Peru :bigsmile:

[Henk Hugo]

its not long before these fish go on the CITES list....

btw there an invasive issue in KZN with Pterygoplichthys Disjunctivus hence the move to ban them

[Dolphin]

this guy is arriving next month from a breeder in europe, considering all these bans he's staying with me!

[Henk Hugo]

sounds good

[city bowl]

...Imer?

[Dolphin]

...Imer?


meaning ? :p

[city bowl]

Imers Oezay a well known, some would say notorious breeder from Germany.

[Dolphin]

Imers Oezay a well known, some would say notorious breeder from Germany.


no dont know him... i'm getting the L-46 from a wholesaler in germany where we get other tangs, apisto and cory from...

[city bowl]

OK they may get them from him.

[Dolphin]

OK they may get them from him.


i'll ask my supplier and let you know :blink1:

[High-wash]

Dolphin where exactly are you as i would be intrested in them aswell :)

[Dolphin]

Dolphin where exactly are you as i would be intrested in them aswell :)


Hi, we're in Sandton. Whould you be interested in L-46? PM if you are.

[High-wash]

Sounds good would be nice to have one :)

[High-wash]

Any news again dolphin

[Dolphin]

Any news again dolphin


Just busy chaning my setup and will then have these in stock - hopefully two weeks more...

[High-wash]

Thanks dolphin ill keep in contact and then we can go from there thanks allot

[High-wash]

dolphin where in Sandton is your shop ?

[Dolphin]

dolphin where in Sandton is your shop ?

PM sent

[Slojo]

PM sent

Pm me too with details.Would like to Browse and meet Saturday morning.

[Kuhli Loach]

Dolphin - pm me the detail as well - thanks

[RoCkFoRdGuN]

theres a guy in centurion that i bought my gold nugget from
exclusive pets just maybe check in phone directory they in centurion