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Hi all I have a big problem at the moment!!!!! :eek::eek::mad:
I looked at my fish tank and saw that 2 of my kribs are laying on the floor breathing rapidly and they look very bloated with a long thing haning out of them.....
and I noticed the same on my golden guramui as well :amazed:
but he is not breathing so rapidly.
What can I do to save these fish? because I don't want to loose them :wondering:
First though that comes to mind is digestive problem..Sounds like the "long thing" might be a "poop tube"
Wrong feeding - Wrong meat or pellets they can not digest.
To much feeding - They are eating more than they can digest.
Ok it could be over feeding so what do I do to sort theis out because I dont want to loose these fish?
Sorry Garth, that is where I have to stop... As far as I know the remedy has something to do with squeezing the fish affected. How and where, I do not remember. Zafgak and Veegal know more about this technique as far as I remember....
What colour? Long, stringy and white? 10-1 its Camallanus worms
Levimasole HCL
A product called Dovaworm would also work. There is a round of the Camellanus worms going at the moment. Just go to your nearest vet and ask them about a the Levamisole. They should give it to you. It's not too expensive. I lost all my Apistogramma hongsloi because of it... Diagnosed too late to help.
Good luck dude...
Hi
Yes it is long, string and white and as soon as I took the fish out of the water to examine it closer it broke off and turned brown
How did it get into my tank?
I have not put any new fish in it in a long time
They can live for a while. It's only when the infection becomes severe, that they show signs of sticking out the fish's anus... By this time, it's mostly too late, but not impossible to cure. The fish will need some high quality foods to help them through the next stage of recovery. The worms use hooks to dig into the intestines, so the tearing in the intestines will need to heal up properly before the fish are healthy again.
how do I give them the Dovaworm?
and the Levamisole
and can I get them both at the Vet?
Should be able to get both from the Vet. Levimasole is liquid and IIRC is 5ml per 40l.
Apparently 2.5ml per 40l is sufficient
Chat to your vet about Levimasole HCL and DMSO. Apparently, DMSO is very helpful in getting the fish to ingest the L-HCL, rather than relying on it to ingest via food.
That's the route I took for my tank. Although the Apistos and Rummies in my tank didn't make it, my Discus survived the ordeal without any major issues
Thanks Guys I will go get some at the vet tomorrow and ask him about the stuff as well if they don't know well then I am going to ask you guys again.
Dirk Bellstedt
27-10-2009, 23:22
I think you should not rush into some worm treatment. I think this has to do with feeding. What are you feeding? Only flakes and granulates or are you feeding anything that contains roughage. Do you feed frozen bloodworm now and again? If you would feed some of this the faeces would not be so stringy in all likelihood. Also try not to overfeed as this could definitely cause the problem.
Kind regards,
Dirk
HI Dirk
I feed that tank mostly Granulates and every now and then I will feed them bloodworms or brine shrimp..... could it be that I have moved from tetras product to a cheaper food for the last few months?
Considering the source that you got the fish from, there is a very good chance its Camallanus. He had a major infection in all his tanks
Yes I know that is why I really think it is that.... bur I will have a look to day and get the deworm stuff to day and then maybe take out the infected fish and treat them if they get better then I will treat the rest of the tank as well.
Dirk Bellstedt
28-10-2009, 09:50
OK,
if you guys say that there is a history of Cammalus at the source from where these fishes come then I would also agree that you should treat the fishes.
Use the Dovaworm if you can. Soak some dried food in it and feed the fishes with it. Obviously if the fishes are not eating any more then you have a problem.
I would VERY STRONGLY recommend that all fishkeepers stear clear of DMSO, it is really not good stuff. It smells like stinky potatoes and everything around your aquarium starts stinking as well and it draws into the silicon rubber as well. On my bottle in my lab from Merck it warns you and says: "Irritating to eyes and skin. In case of contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek medical advice".
Kind regards,
Dirk
Thanks Prof
Do I crush the Dovaworm and then use say blood worms by letting them defrost and them sprinkling the dovaworm over it and freeze it again then feed to them or how do I do it?
OK,
if you guys say that there is a history of Cammalus at the source from where these fishes come then I would also agree that you should treat the fishes.
Use the Dovaworm if you can. Soak some dried food in it and feed the fishes with it. Obviously if the fishes are not eating any more then you have a problem.
I would VERY STRONGLY recommend that all fishkeepers stear clear of DMSO, it is really not good stuff. It smells like stinky potatoes and everything around your aquarium starts stinking as well and it draws into the silicon rubber as well. On my bottle in my lab from Merck it warns you and says: "Irritating to eyes and skin. In case of contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek medical advice".
Kind regards,
Dirk
This I can confirm. Had to do a massive water change and clean out both display and sump because the stench was unbearable. Personally i'd rather do that then loose my Wild X's.
The vet I got it from used this method on a guppy breeding operation up here with brood stock that needed saving from Camallanus. After trying various methods, this seemed to have the best results. Especially after prolonged infection and the fish not eating anything
Dirk Bellstedt
28-10-2009, 10:01
Dovaworm is sold in a small bottle and it is a yellow-coloured fluid. Take some dried food, or some bloodworm that you have thawed, put it into a tablespoon and put about 1 ml or as much as the dried food will absorb onto the food. For bloodworm leave this for 15 minutes and then feed, for dried food feed immediately.
Kind regards,
Dirk
I have gone to every place possible in potch and no one know what dovaworm is?????
is there any body that can help me maybe buy it for me and I will deposit the cash into your account with the courier fees????
Perhaps you can try a farm supply store? I bought Levicon at BKB in PE for about R80 for 500ml it is a cattle and sheep dewormer and contains 25% Levamisole HCL. As far as I know this means 25mg per ml so you can work out the dosage from there. I think Dovaworm is 10% Levamisole HCL.
Here is a pretty good article on the subject: http://www.loaches.com/Members/shari2/levamisole-hydrochloride-1
Dirk Bellstedt
29-10-2009, 22:18
Surely there must still be a Noordwes Kooperasie branch somewhere near you? When I was a student I worked in Lichtenburg for Sensako, a maize breeding company, for two summer seasons and there I know they have a good old kooperasie, jy weet man!
Kind regards,
Dirk
Surely there must still be a Noordwes Kooperasie branch somewhere near you? When I was a student I worked in Lichtenburg for Sensako, a maize breeding company, for two summer seasons and there I know they have a good old kooperasie, jy weet man!
Kind regards,
Dirk
I think they are called OBARO now.
I think I seen a dewormer (unknown brand) at one of the LFS. Looked very old lots of dust on it. PM your cell number if u interested
Check the LFS's in Potch for Sera Professional Nematol. A large shipment of Sera arrived in the country a week or so ago
so it's finally here
waiting for ages for them to be stocked
If anyone sees them (the new sera range)in jhb LFS let me know pleez
I got hold of a product that kills internal parasites cant remember the name will post it a bit later for you guys it looks like my fish I know it is a Jungle product I have been to ever place here no luck with the dovaworm but I am going to try the Levicon later to day see if I can find it
so it's finally here
waiting for ages for them to be stocked
If anyone sees them (the new sera range)in jhb LFS let me know pleez
Jungle Aquatics has
I got hold of a product that kills internal parasites cant remember the name will post it a bit later for you guys it looks like my fish I know it is a Jungle product I have been to ever place here no luck with the dovaworm but I am going to try the Levicon later to day see if I can find it
Just remember internal parasites are many different organims. Levamisole HCL is very effective against roundworm and a few other species, but not tape worm. So rather check what you suspect you have and treat accordingly.
Jungle Parasite Clear? Not going to work for Camallanus
Does some one here have the phone number for jungle aquatics so that I can phone them to order Sera Professional Nematol....
can you please Pm me there number...
thanks
Just did that and I found it thanks
Gareth all the best buddy. Hope you manage to nurse your fish back to health
Just ordered the stuff have to wait and see how long it takes to get here..
Thanks Slayer
Dovaworm contains a 6% Levamisol solution, not 10%.
Good luck Gareth, let us know what happens.
Will do... but it looks like it will only be here on Wednesday or Thursday so it is going to be a while...
Kuhli Loach
07-12-2009, 14:32
Gareth: Did you manage to get rid of the worms. How did you treat your fish at the end of the day. Would like to know, as I seem to be having the same problem.
Hi Kuhli Loach
I was able to get rid of it by using the stuff from jungle aquatics it works like a bomb.
I just followed the instructions and after I was done with the treatment I did a 80% water change and I have had no problems since. Just give bryan a call at jungle aquatics and he will help you. you will have to get Sera Professional Nematol it really works. :rolleyes:
Kuhli Loach
07-12-2009, 14:49
Thanks Gareth - I have some Dovaworm that I will try first - if that does not work I will get some of the Sera product that you use.
Good luck hope you dont loose any fish.
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