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Zoom
26-08-2009, 21:20
OK, so everyone has a thread of their own tank, and the progress going into it. So I thought I would have my own as well. So maybe I'm a little late in posting my thread up... as I've had my tank up and running for a few months already... but based on the fact that I will be completely re-scaping my tank within the next few weeks, I figured it's best to start. Also thought it a good idea to keep it here as like a journal whereby I can go back and look at where I have come from...

Some of you may have been following my threads from the beginning... and if you do a search on my threads, you will find out that I started keeping fish literally a few months ago. (around Feb I think). All my questions were very trivial questions, but what I can say is that without TASA, I would have had a HUGE number of oopsies... which thankfully I have avoided.

My interest was spawned by a house my company took over with regards to completing the building project. (See pic 1). Inside the house was a huge marine tank, which attracted my interest from the word go. My wife was never keen on fish keeping... but one evening, after receiving a small "fishbowl" vase with flowers in, asked if she could keep a fish in the fish bowl. Well.. the bowl barely held 1 litre of water... so I sent HER off to the LPS to go do research on keeping fish. I had done MY research, now I needed to test the waters and see how serious SHE was.

1 week later we had spent our 1st grand and came home with a lovely Boyu 40litre tank.

This tank lasted exactly 4 weeks until, as most of you will recall from my threads, I was blessed with a lovely 160litre tank.

We have had the 160l set up for a few months now. Touch wood I have not had any sicknesses or illnesses yet... but I have had a few fatalities. Some silly (owner induced), some cause by filter sucking them up, and others unknown why. (Some fish simply disappeared... altho I believe the snails assisted in that.)

With the assistance and advice on TASA, I have ventured into real plants, as apposed to the R750.00 I spent on silk plants!! (Thanks guys!). I have fiddled with DIY CO2, and now using some other fancy CO2 (will post info later).

The newly planned re-scape was started by my company venturing into new building technology, requiring ultra-super fine silica sand. 6 TONS of the stuff arrived at my warehouse in Midrand... and I could NOT refuse to put it into my tank! (Pics 2 is of my current sand. 3 is my new sand.)

Last night I decided to get a few handful of this sand cleaned... and living in a third floor flat, makes it a little more challanging than what most of you are accustomed to. I have to clean all my sand IN THE BATH. (Pic 4).

I eventually resorted to sitting on a stool at the basin, putting 1 cup of sand into a jug, filling the jug with water, swirling the water with a stick, and pouring the water out. This was repeated another 5 times until 1 cup of sand was cleaned.

2 HOURS later, ALL I had managed to clean was 1 bucket of sand! (PIC 5).

I was planning on doing some more cleaning this evening, and possibly Friday evening, and hopefully start the rescape by the weekend. Unfortunately a work accident today has resulted in a rather painful gash and removal of a lot of skin on my thumb, and therefor do not feel comfortable working with such fine sand and the open wound. I will however, if time permits me, be buying a pair of gloves tomorrow in order to allow me to work without exposing the wound to the elements.

In the meantime, could you guys advise me on what substrate I could put UNDER the new silica sand, as i would LOVE to make my tank a reasonably heavy planted tank... and know the that substrate is 50% of the growth.

Madam
27-08-2009, 07:40
Howzit Zoom... Perhaps you'd be interested in putting some riversand under your fancy-sand? It's not as fine, but still beautifully soft... I may have some left over when I'm done with the 4ft, I'll let you know.

Donny
27-08-2009, 07:59
Quickest way I got my sand clean was to fill a bucket half way then stick a hose right to the bottom so the water fills up from the bottom and then stir it with one hand, found this worked well.

Mongwopman
27-08-2009, 08:39
Quickest way I got my sand clean was to fill a bucket half way then stick a hose right to the bottom so the water fills up from the bottom and then stir it with one hand, found this worked well.

HAHA, thats exactly what i do! Works like a charm!

Donny
27-08-2009, 08:43
Zoom just know now that no matter how clear the water is in the bucket the water in the tank will be a little cloudy when filling it. Regent power heads with filter baskets cycling the tank clears the tank quickly. To get the cloudiness to go away i use to use as many as 3 pumps at once.
Mongwopman -- LOL --

Ferryman
27-08-2009, 10:20
lol, to clean my 40 kg of NORMAL pool filtersand took me about an hour as well, so much crap and silt and dust etc that needs to come out.
I took do the whole, hosepipe down the bucket through the sand thing.

So, zoom, have you tested the substrate for vac-purposes yet?

ie will it stay, or get sucked up?

Madam
27-08-2009, 13:08
lol, to clean my 40 kg of NORMAL pool filtersand took me about an hour as well, so much crap and silt and dust etc that needs to come out.
I took do the whole, hosepipe down the bucket through the sand thing.

So, zoom, have you tested the substrate for vac-purposes yet?

ie will it stay, or get sucked up?

Yeah, I'm curious about this too... does it get sucked up?

Sean J
27-08-2009, 14:49
No, it's too heavy to be syphoned out the tank. I promise. It looks good though!! I have to wash 80 kilos of that stuff this weekend!! Not looking forward to it...

Ok, here's another idea for what to put under your Silica Sand.

Rose shrub mix. A normal bag found at the nursery. Put a small amount on the bottom of your tank. Maybe 1cm thick. Make sure you leave space between the tank glass and the layer so you don't have a brown layer when looking from the front and sides.

Add a couple of MTS (Malasian Trumpet Snails) in to make sure that no air pockets develop in the gravel. This will become poisonous. The snails mix it up when the burrow into the gravel.

Works as a great fertilizer for the plant roots...

If not that, then use Flourite.

Zoom
27-08-2009, 18:20
Quickest way I got my sand clean was to fill a bucket half way then stick a hose right to the bottom so the water fills up from the bottom and then stir it with one hand, found this worked well.

I tried that pricipal (remember I don't have a garden with hosepipe etc.) The gravel is so fine that is churn so much and gets washed out the top. I have to fill the jug, swirl, let the sand settle, (about 10 secs) and then pour the water out.


lol, to clean my 40 kg of NORMAL pool filtersand took me about an hour as well, so much crap and silt and dust etc that needs to come out.
I took do the whole, hosepipe down the bucket through the sand thing.

So, zoom, have you tested the substrate for vac-purposes yet?

ie will it stay, or get sucked up?

Yes I have tested. With a very wide vacuum, it doesn't suck too much sand out... but with the narrow vac, I'll end up taking more sand out than water. I.E I can't really plunge the vaccuum into the sand to do a deep clean. Even with the large vac a small portion of sand it taken out. It'll all come down to learning how to vacuum gently and methodically


No, it's too heavy to be syphoned out the tank. I promise. It looks good though!! I have to wash 80 kilos of that stuff this weekend!! Not looking forward to it...

Ok, here's another idea for what to put under your Silica Sand.

Rose shrub mix. A normal bag found at the nursery. Put a small amount on the bottom of your tank. Maybe 1cm thick. Make sure you leave space between the tank glass and the layer so you don't have a brown layer when looking from the front and sides.

Add a couple of MTS (Malasian Trumpet Snails) in to make sure that no air pockets develop in the gravel. This will become poisonous. The snails mix it up when the burrow into the gravel.

Works as a great fertilizer for the plant roots...

If not that, then use Flourite.

I'll try find flourite... but I believe there is a shortage in the country. I also cannot find Malasian Trumpet snails ANYWHERE... and no LPS keeps them, or even has them by accident.

Ferryman
27-08-2009, 23:02
I'll try find flourite... but I believe there is a shortage in the country. I also cannot find Malasian Trumpet snails ANYWHERE... and no LPS keeps them, or even has them by accident.
the ship is still on its way aparently, alot of LFSs are waiting for it too, theres a shipment already sent out.... i'm also looking for some seachem stuff that AK hasn't got atm cuz the "...shipment is still on its way..."

Zoom
31-08-2009, 18:27
Well... it is almost a week later, and I still have not cleaned any more sand.. still the one bucket only. The accident at work where I cut my thumb rather badly landed up with a visit to the doctor, whereby an antibiotic was prescribed, and some facy antibiotic pads was put onto the wound. I was also instructed to keep the thumb dry.

I will also only be getting the Flourite this weekend hopfully... so no point in rushing. The wife will be working next week, which will give me some beaufitul 'alone' time to rescape the tank, and do everything without her giving me the "beady" eye about the mess.

One of my work associates has a small nursery where he collects and sells Cycads, aloes and that type of plants, and today I noticed some beautiful rocks. It's apparently Iron rocks, so shouldn't change the chemical properties of water... He said I can help myself to a few pieces for my tank. (He is the guy who originally GAVE me my 160litre tank!)

So all happening slowly.

Patience is the name of the game in fish keeping!

Ferryman
31-08-2009, 18:32
i say, go buy a pack of balloons, and stick one over your thumb, wrap the end in insulation tape and voila, no more excuses:D

Zoom
31-08-2009, 19:18
I might do some cleaning this evening... all depends on where the evening goes... if I TASA all night, then obviously not.

Zafgak
31-08-2009, 19:31
Since when has an amputation stopped MTS ????

Zoom
31-08-2009, 19:36
Hey... doc's orders... and I need my thumb long term.. How am I suppose to carry all the new tanks I'll be buying without my thumb

Zafgak
31-08-2009, 19:44
Still got 4 fingers and a stump :)

Zoom
31-08-2009, 20:00
My wife will die!

Mongwopman
31-08-2009, 20:03
bu thats the reason God was gratefull enough to grace you with a spare thumb!

Zoom
31-08-2009, 20:05
bu thats the reason God was gratefull enough to grace you with a spare thumb!


I would love to see a pic of your hand if you have a spare thumb dude....

Mongwopman
31-08-2009, 20:17
but i do.......it's on my other hand!

Zoom
06-09-2009, 12:01
OK, so I was SUPPOSE to only do the full set up next weekend... but time allowed me yesterday afternoon to start setting up the Betta tank I was planning... which in turn led to me redoing the 160litre... I was up until 1am this morning re-scaping and resetting the tank.

I am currently in the process of uploading my pictures to an album... I will post pictures within the next few hours.

Zoom
06-09-2009, 20:09
The fine silica sand cleaned up rather easily... just 5 rinses per cup of sand and it was clean! Just a bit of dust to get rid of.

The weekend started with a visit to the LPS to 'look' at plants. I was planning on spending the entire weekend NEXT weekend rescaping the 160l and setting up the 40l betta tank. BUT the plants were too tempting to leave behind at the LPS to the fate of other customers.

What you see here is HALF of what I bought (All for R100.00)


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=241


This included one handful of "java" moss (Not sure if this is true java moss)


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=240


I innitially set up the 40litre tank and transferred all my fish into there so that I could spend time re-scaping the 160litre. I left a few handfuls of original silica sand at the bottom of the tank to seed the new sand. Here you can see the difference between the normal silica, and the new.


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=232


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=231


I know that usually new sand clouds up the water something beautiful, so I decided not to try put the water in 'gently' and just poured in in via bucket. Obviously with the sand so fine, it displaced rather vigorously... but after re-levelling the sand, I was able to plant my new plants. This photo was taken literally a minute after planting... you will notice hardly NO cloudyness. This sand is AWESOME.


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=242


Unfortunately I noticed that the fish in the 40litre (remember they are use to a 160litre) were struggling for space, and were gasping for air, so I decided the only humane thing to do was to put them back into their newly re-scaped 160 litre. Innitial plan was to let the new tank cylce for 12 hours first. (no need to do full 3 week cycle as I reused the old tank water, and didn't change filter medium, only substrate). So at 12 midnight last night... there I was catching 30 odd fish from the 40litre to put them back into their 160litre.

You will appreciate that at that time, a sense of humour is seriously lacking, and obviously a lot of 'chasin' was done to the fish to just catch them and get them transferred. When I woke up this morning, I was expecting a few dead fish, but every single fish survived the entire ordeal... and are all happily settled in their tank.


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=237


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=236


And here are some close up's I took this evening.

Java moss wrapped on rock.

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=238

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=255

f-fish
06-09-2009, 20:17
Good job - just keep an eye on the guys for signs of stress .... my fish hate it when I do tank changes during lights out ...

Substrate looks good.

Zoom
06-09-2009, 20:38
Thatnks f-fish... I am watching very carefully. The funny thing is that my Ancistrus is now showin his face more than anything else.. you usually NEVER see him

Sean J
06-09-2009, 21:06
That tank looks great dude!! I like the look of the super fine sand. It really does look nice. Some Cories will love it too!

Try find some Seachem Stability. Add it per the Directions on the bottle. It will help with the recycling of the tank. Your tank will go through some kind of recycle. Try minimize the stress on your fish.

Zoom
06-09-2009, 21:11
the 5 Bronze Cories LOVE their new substrate. As they swim they have a "cloud" of sand bursting up behind them. But this settled instantly.

I was going to add stability... only to find the bottle I had was empty! (Humph). Will invest in some tomorrow. I know the tank will cycle a bit... but I hope not too much. The water didn't change, and the filter didn't change... altho it wasn't in moving water for over 4 hours... (I put filter medium into a bucket of water with airstone.)

stormbringer101
07-09-2009, 12:30
nice setup I love that substate looks so natural . where did you get the (holy rock) on the right of the bottom pic my fire eel would love it.

veegal
07-09-2009, 12:49
It looks awesome Zoom! In the last picture you posted there seems to be a different type of substrate under the new substrate (it looks darker) - is this old substrate or something else you added, or is it just my eyesight going wonky? LoL.

That is a bottom feeders paradise there :D

Donny
07-09-2009, 12:52
Zoom looks realy awesome :)

Sean J
07-09-2009, 12:54
It looks awesome Zoom! In the last picture you posted there seems to be a different type of substrate under the new substrate (it looks darker) - is this old substrate or something else you added, or is it just my eyesight going wonky? LoL.

That is a bottom feeders paradise there :D

It looks like a shadow... LOL!!

Ruan
07-09-2009, 13:15
That substrate looks lush!

veegal
07-09-2009, 13:16
It looks like a shadow... LOL!!

:embarrest::tongue: Oops - I guess my eyes are going wonky :)

Whipme
07-09-2009, 13:21
Yeah, I've got playsand in my tank and that's just how far the light penetrates the substrate.

It's amazing that you've got no cloudiness after the big change, I had to give it about 3 days of just running filter floss to clear all the dust out of mine.

Linga
07-09-2009, 13:31
the setup looks great, fine silca is awesome. i added mine to my tank this weekend and absolutely no cloudyness of the water. just gotta wait a few weeks to add fish

Gareth
07-09-2009, 13:55
Looks really good I think I am going to go with the Fine Silca as well when I start with my 2m tank

Zoom
07-09-2009, 21:30
nice setup I love that substate looks so natural . where did you get the (holy rock) on the right of the bottom pic my fire eel would love it.

I bought it from LPS in Northgate. It's actually from a granite quary. What happens is the quaries drill these holes in and take out pieces of granite to see the colours and if it is good enough granite to mine... and then chuck the holy pieces out. I've seen this type of rock at that particular LPS a few times, never anywhere else. My Cory's love it too... they sit in it all day.


It looks awesome Zoom! In the last picture you posted there seems to be a different type of substrate under the new substrate (it looks darker) - is this old substrate or something else you added, or is it just my eyesight going wonky? LoL.

That is a bottom feeders paradise there :D

Yep... my Cory's LOVE the substrate. What you are seeing is a light variance. The light only penetrates the sand about 25-30mm... the sand beneath is exactly the same.... just has no light.


the setup looks great, fine silca is awesome. i added mine to my tank this weekend and absolutely no cloudyness of the water. just gotta wait a few weeks to add fish

I honestly could NOT believe how clear the water was.You have to see it in real life to believe it... and at the moment the water is crystal crystal clear.

Sean J
07-09-2009, 21:59
Looks really good I think I am going to go with the Fine Silca as well when I start with my 2m tank

You might change your mind after washing the first 2 bags...

@ Zoom - It looks fantastic.

Gareth
07-09-2009, 22:05
You might change your mind after washing the first 2 bags...

True but I have to was sand no matter witch one I take so might as well do it right the first time round

Ferryman
07-09-2009, 22:32
My Cory's love it too... they sit in it all day.

you actually get them to not move for the day?? :D:D
mine wont settle down for a second, they're ALL over the place all the time, lights on or off

-snaffle snaffle snaffle-

speedz
08-09-2009, 06:36
what a great looking setup!

neilh
08-09-2009, 07:48
Good looking setup

The middle red plant looks like Hemigraphis Colorata. Definitely not an aquatic plant

Zoom
08-09-2009, 14:53
It quite possible I have non-aquatic plants in there. I bought it from a LPS that grows ALL his plant hydroponically.... roots in water, leaves out of water. He says it's the best way to get good growth. I've never had any problems with his plants in the past... and they have all grown.

As I said in previous thread, the prices were so good that I just took a whole bunch with the intention of whatever doesn't grow I take out. Some of his plants were R12.00 each. I think I even got one or 2 at R7.00

Zoom
12-09-2009, 09:19
It has been a week since the rescape.

Today I have planned my first attempt at cleaning the "new-and-improved" super fine substrate. I anticipate it being rather interesting.

During the week (Thursday night) my Female Swordtail gave birth to new fry. She started around 18h00... and I assume she went on through the night. She did not look very happy through the ordeal, and unfortunately, this morning we watched her take her final breath. I don't think there will be any fry around either, as this is a community tank.. and those Zebra Danios are true hunters.

This morning I have also discovered my male sword lying belly up in the plants...

This has lead me to believe that I might have some "nasties" in my water. If you've followed my thread, you will know that I introduced a lot of new plants. I have also introduced 10 new Neons. (I had 17, bought a further 10 with a male betta with the intention of having the neons & betta in a Betta tank... before I know it, the Betta was munching at a neon. So all the neons went back into my 160l set up.)

Today will be a big 50% water change. I will have a look at my LPS for a "multi-purpose" medication for fungal and bacterial infections... and do a dose of that.

Tomorrow I will do another 30% water change... and hopefully by then have sorted out my main concerns.

As of last night this is my perameters:

pH 7.2
Ammonia 0.5 - 0.75 ppm
Nitrites 0
Nitrates 2.5

I didn't think I was going to go through a mini cycle... as I re-used 50% of my original water when I did the rescape... but I guess I am going through the cycle now. It might be the ammonia effecting my fish. In the past I generally had 0 ammonia 0 NitrItes, and about 15ppm nitrAtes. (Ideal situation).

Zoom
13-09-2009, 13:32
Yesterday I got home from shopping, I discovered my 2 female Swords belly up, my 2 juvinile Guppy's as well as my Male Jumbo Guppy had also passed onto better lived.

At this point I was convinced something was seriously wrong with either my water, or something had been introduced to the tank.

I had forgotten about the undergravel fertilizer I had ordered from my LPS. So armed with my Sera Floradepot, a new internal pump, a "natural" medication called heal all and a "natural" product called anti stress, I proceeded to empty the tank. (Fish went into a temp tank). 50% water was kept in buckets. A further 50% was set up for dechlorinating... and in the meantime I took all the plants out, took the substrate out, laid my Floradepot, re-laid my substrate, and refilled the tank.

Plants were pruned for dead leaves and roots, replanted. Rocks were scrubbed clean. Water was dosed with Heal All, Anti Stress, and a few hours later the fish were re-introduced into ttheir tank.

This morning all seems ok. Fish were a little lethargic, but this was later found out to be the fact that the heater plug had not made good contact with the plug, and wasn't actually on.

(It seems i am currently not having good luck with my tank at the moment. I am seriously hoping it hasn't got anything to do with the new sand... as I threw my old silica sand away, and really do NOT want to go through the pains of removing the sand, and re-washing a bag of silica sand!)

I will post pics shortly of the equipment I currently run.

Zoom
13-09-2009, 13:53
Tank consists of 160 litres of water (give or take 20litres for substrate and rocks.)

Not sure what make the tank is, as it was given to me as a performance bonus from work. (It was originally set up as a Marine tank at a business associate's house. When he wanted to sell it, and my boss heard me offering to by it, my boss covered the cost and transportation of the tank for me.)

Jager 250W heater maintains temperature at 27 degrees.

I run 2 filters. One internal and one external.

The internal is purely a mechanical filter ro remove plant matter and debris. I usually give the sponge and filter floss a good clean (in aquarium water) every other week.
The ventury system of the internal filter is also connected to my DIY CO2. I use to have the CO2 going through a bubble counter, but have found that putting the CO2 through the filter's power head is far more effective, as the bubbles are broken down into a lot more smaller bubbles, dissolving more effectively in the tank.
Both this pump and CO2 system runs 24/7. I have not noticed any pH difference in running CO2 overnight. I am not pumping HUGE volumes of CO2 into the tank, as I only want to ASSIST with plant growth, and not cause major growth.

Pic of Internal filter & CO2

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=2

[IMG]http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=230



The EXTERNAL filter is my bio filter. Water is pumped up from a submerged pump into a compartment in the hood of the tank. The submerged pump actually has a sponge filter on it, so again, my mechanical filtering is done in the tank. The water is then distrobuted over filter floss in the hood, filters over cermaic rings under the floss. The water then passes to a second chamber in the hood compartment wher it passes through Purigen, and then back into the tank.
My Purigen is not left in my tank permanently, as I want it to last. I only use it every 2nd to 3rd week for 3 days when I notice the tannins in the water from the wood getting bad. Otherwise I leave it out.

Sumberged Pump

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=259

Hood filter

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=257

Both my 160litre community & 40litre Betta tank is run by this Eheim air pump. This pump is absolutely AMAZINGLY quite - unless you see the bubbles in the water, you don't even know it's on!

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=229

I got this different shaped rock from the same associate who gave me the tank. He runs a private nursery for his landscaping business. He collects and sells indegenous cycads, aloes and cacti, and obviously rockery is very much a part of these plants. He received a truck of these "Iron" rocks.

After research and the passing the vinegar test, I boiled the rock for 3 hours. The soaked the rock for 12 hours in bleech. Scrubbed it, and then soaked it in dechlor for 24 hours, changing the water every 12 hours.

I originally wanted to balance the rock horizontally accross the tank like a bridge, but this took up valuable planting space, and decided on placing it like so...


http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=260

THE CORRIES LOVE SITTING UNDER THE ROCK.


I also ordered Flourite from my LPS to put under my substrate. I had originally forgotten about my order when I redid the tank last weekend, but received it yesterday. The LPS couldn't get my Flourite, but got me SERA Floradepot. The LPS owner claims that he uses the exact stuff in his tank. (I have seen his tank, so I know he isn't lying about being a fish enthusiast!)

So I put a tub of it under my substrate:

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=258

speedz
13-09-2009, 14:04
Zoom what cories do you have?

Ferryman
13-09-2009, 14:09
btw, don't let your purigen bag dry out when you take it out. Seachem recons some of the beads crack when drying out and it decreases the usefullness of it all. so just take the bag out an wrap it in a ziplock or something till further use

Zoom
13-09-2009, 14:12
Zoom what cories do you have?

Bronze Corries


btw, don't let your purigen bag dry out when you take it out. Seachem recons some of the beads crack when drying out and it decreases the usefullness of it all. so just take the bag out an wrap it in a ziplock or something till further use

Thanks Ferry... I didn't know that. Will take precaution next time I take out!

Ferryman
13-09-2009, 15:14
i didn't know first either, till i read them telling another user on another forum (i let a small baggie of mine dry out before i could get to the shops for some HouseBrand bleach. of well, you live you learn

Zoom
07-10-2009, 20:54
It's about time I did an update on my tank set up. I was paging through my pictures on my PC the other day and realised the the photo's I have of my tank are HOPELESSLY outdated.

Besides moving a few of the big leafed plants to the side, not much has changed with regards to the scape of the tank. A pair of my angels spawned 2 weeks ago, on a leaf in the MIDDLE of the tank, resulting in the pair chasing any other fish who dared move away from the confines of up against the glass. I have noticed this pair looking at the leaves again, and becoming slightly more aggro towards the rest of the tankmates. They have also darkened in colour, something I noticed on their first spawn. So I am expecting them to start their thing again... maybe this weekend after I have done my Water Change.

Here is afull shot of the tank

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=314



From left to right...

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=315
http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=313
http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=316



My latest purchase settling in beautifully (Thanks Dophin... this fish is absalutely stunning!)

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=311
http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=312



My angel (male) that spawned last weekend

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=307



My MENEER of the tank!

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=310

veegal
07-10-2009, 20:57
Looks good Zoom - which was the female that spawned?

Zoom
07-10-2009, 21:15
Looks good Zoom - which was the female that spawned?

In the first Angel picture you can see her in the background behind him... and yes, she is about half her size.

veegal
07-10-2009, 21:18
So are you going to let them spawn in the community tank again?

Zoom
07-10-2009, 21:23
I don't have any other tank to move them too. My 40litre has the male betta in. And I CAN'T take him out of that tank and down-grade him to a substrateless/plantless/ 15litre grow out tank. Especially considering the betta tank is now the wife's...

Sean J
07-10-2009, 21:36
Zoom, I love the new look!! That rock looks awesome! Well done man.

Do you have a plant list?

Zoom
08-10-2009, 06:55
Zoom, I love the new look!! That rock looks awesome! Well done man.

Do you have a plant list?

Hey Slagter,

If I knew what they were, I would put a list together. I am one of those "sad" fish keepers that buys plants at LFS when I see something healthy and that I like. I've been through many plants that were not aquarium plants, but I have reached a level now where 95% of the plants that are in the tank are healthy, and growing. There is 1 plant that looks suspect. It looks unhealthy, but only because it's covered in Diatoms... and it didn't show any plant growth, until recently when I saw a few shoots. So obviously it needed to root itself properly before growing.

Most of my plants came from Fish Fantasy World.

I believe I have also introduced BGA into my tank from the plants, and seeking assistance from Laure to elliminate it.

Laure
08-10-2009, 07:13
blackout... PM sent

Dolphin
08-10-2009, 09:36
My latest purchase settling in beautifully (Thanks Dophin... this fish is absalutely stunning!)

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/picture.php?albumid=58&pictureid=311

only a pleasure man!

tank looks very nice indeed... beautifull angels!

Linga
08-10-2009, 10:19
the tanks looks great, and those angels looking fantastic

Zoom
10-10-2009, 10:19
Last night's WC resulted in my pair of spawning angels become aggressive again, and looking for spawning space.

The wife suggested I move "her" fish from the betta tank to the qurantine tank (on condition I put plants in and substrate). So her betta is now moved from a 40litre to a 20litre... but he still seems happy.

And now the 40 litre has been rescaped with broader leafed plants, and a piece of slate I brought back from work. I transferred the pair into it last night... obviously the move has stressed them out a bit, and not the last thing on their mind is spawning... but hopefully something will happen within the next few weeks.

I have also invested in some Tetra anti fungus... becuase the Bio Elite one was K@K. My last spawn of eggs were lost due to a fungal infection, and I lost a guppy the same day due to the fungal infection infecting her eye. After 2 days of treating with the bio-elite stuff, I had to cull her. (The fungus had grown so big it lopsided her!)

So now we hurry up and wait for the spawn...

guido.coza
10-10-2009, 17:42
Hi Bob
First i wasn't that keen on doing my own 3D back but that i see yours now fitted! I think I change my mind:blink1:
Looking good:bigsmile: