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Warr7207
02-11-2008, 07:37
I am marine boy, but would like to know, what would be a cool setup, keeping in mind I have wicked colours and diversity in my marine setup.

Also maintenance is not a prob, as my marine setup needs daily care.

I would say a 300L setup would be the sort of volume I would consider.

Livestock need to be interesting enough to keep me happy

Tank dimensions i would think would be quite different to marines because there is no coral and hectic lighting requirements.

Comments :blink1:
Henk Hugo
02-11-2008, 08:58
i would go for a 1.2m tank with a fluval 305 filter. 4x54watt T5s, jager heater. some sort of plant substrate and a nice planted tank with some south american tetras and angels
Singularity
02-11-2008, 13:10
warr are u actually going to be putting up a FW system ?
Henk Hugo
02-11-2008, 16:24
looks like it :)
Rory
02-11-2008, 19:12
I would probably go for a malawi setup if I did a "proper" freshwater system. Other than that maybe discus because I've never tried them. Deliliah did a nice thread called noobs guide to discus somewhere around here if you're interested.
Henk Hugo
02-11-2008, 19:13
the problem is to find GOOD discus without being ripped off
Singularity
02-11-2008, 22:39
thats the plan henk !! :p:blink1:
Warr7207
04-11-2008, 16:38
i would go for a 1.2m tank with a fluval 305 filter. 4x54watt T5s, jager heater. some sort of plant substrate and a nice planted tank with some south american tetras and angels

Any pics of these tetras and angels ?
Warr7207
04-11-2008, 16:39
warr are u actually going to be putting up a FW system ?

Looking into it :eek:
Singularity
04-11-2008, 17:24
would you want anything other than this ?

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk85/singularity96/highquality.jpg
Singularity
04-11-2008, 17:29
some tetra`s

Cardinal Tetra

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/images/cardinal.jpg


Rummy nose tetra

http://www.somethingsphishy.com/images/Rummy-Nose%20Tetra.jpg

Black Neon

http://z.about.com/d/freshaquarium/1/0/a/V/tetra08G.jpg
Warr7207
04-11-2008, 17:49
would you want anything other than this ?



What is this ?
Singularity
04-11-2008, 22:28
What is this ?

that is a discus :p
Henk Hugo
05-11-2008, 06:40
Warr go do a search on discus to see what colours you get. like i said in another post - theres so many crap discus out there... you must know what to look for
Warr7207
10-05-2009, 00:54
Ok, so here is my ideas so far.

Planted 1.2m tank with 4 or 5 Discus (adult sizes) and 1 or 2 schools of tetras - Cardinal and/or Rummy nose, probably 20 of each.

Run T5 lighting system. Canister filtration.

What substrate is going work for a planted tank ?

Keeping in mind I am not going have a sump, will a normal 300w heater suffice for heating ?

What sort of heat do these Amazon creatures enjoy - 28-29°C ?
Zafgak
10-05-2009, 08:42
Substrate - cleaned riversand - available from plant nurserys
300W is good but I would go for 2 x 200W (redundancy)
your temp range is fine , anywhere from 26-30
veegal
10-05-2009, 08:46
Don't forget that your Discus will require the higher end of the temp range though.
Max98
10-05-2009, 15:39
Don't forget that your Discus will require the higher end of the temp range though.

It is a kind of trade-off, because discus likes higher temperatures and most plants likes it a bit colder than the 29-30 that most people keep discus tanks to.

When I had my discus planted tank, I had my temp at 27 degrees without any visible side effects.

I am also into marines, but like you said, the amount of maintenance is much less.(No coralline algae on the glass)
A well balanced planted tank only needs glass cleaning every 2-3 weeks.

Something I would recommend looking into for a planted tank is pressurized CO2.

And when you start, plant densely with fast growing plants and you wouldn't have a problem with algae.

This is what I have as planted tank.

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?t=511
speedz
10-05-2009, 18:07
malawis will enjoy a big tank like that
brentnorm
10-05-2009, 18:23
Ok, so here is my ideas so far.

Planted 1.2m tank with 4 or 5 Discus (adult sizes) and 1 or 2 schools of tetras - Cardinal and/or Rummy nose, probably 20 of each.

Run T5 lighting system. Canister filtration.

What substrate is going work for a planted tank ?

Keeping in mind I am not going have a sump, will a normal 300w heater suffice for heating ?

What sort of heat do these Amazon creatures enjoy - 28-29°C ?

Seachem flourite is a very good substrate for a planted tank and I must aggree that 2 heaters are always better than one.
Warr7207
10-05-2009, 19:25
This is what I have as planted tank.

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?t=511

Wow, Max that is really nice. What species of plants are those ?
Max98
10-05-2009, 19:59
Wow, Max that is really nice. What species of plants are those ?

to the right, I think it is a type of hygrophilia. Grows quite quick.

Right side I have a type of anubias. Slow grower.

The other I don't know.
solex69
10-05-2009, 20:23
Right - Hygrophila Polysperma

Anubias - Anubias Barteri
Max98
10-05-2009, 21:24
Right - Hygrophila Polysperma

Anubias - Anubias Barteri

Good to know. Thanks.

In my opinion it is much easier to create a nice looking planted tank than reef tank.
solex69
11-05-2009, 07:41
In my opinion it is much easier to create a nice looking planted tank than reef tank

Couldn't have agreed any more :)

Chiao
D
Warr7207
13-05-2009, 12:24
What do thing of these boys ?

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk85/singularity96/IMG_2002.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk85/singularity96/IMG_2038.jpg
solex69
13-05-2009, 13:22
Looks like discus from Singularity

I think the ones in pic 2 looks nice
Henk Hugo
13-05-2009, 13:31
yea love the hormones they have been fed
veegal
13-05-2009, 13:37
yea love the hormones they have been fed

??? How can you tell??? Or should I say, how do you know??? :amazed:
Henk Hugo
13-05-2009, 13:55
Discus that size dont have colouring like that...
Warr7207
15-05-2009, 00:56
yea love the hormones they have been fed

Give me more info on hormones
Henk Hugo
15-05-2009, 07:11
The majority of discus that is bred in the east gets fed hormones to bring out their colouring etc at a much younger age. I'll ask Prof to post why its bad etc....
Warr7207
15-05-2009, 23:49
So I have been looking at some planted tanks.

Any thoughts ?

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/spinycheek/IMG_0036-1.jpg

http://www.reefaquariumforum.com/spiny-s-fw-planted-tank-t3977.html#p28872
solex69
16-05-2009, 07:40
Very nice indeed. Planted nanos can sometimes look even more stunning than some bigger planted aquariums. I would probably put 4 different plant types max in a nano. A small foreground plant, abackground plant, a moss, and then a red-type plant to break the colour. Add some CO2 and off you go. For fish, well I'd probably put in betta females or King Blue Tetras

Cheers
Dale